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u4ic

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01-25-2016 01:32 PM

I’m a newbi to this forum looking for advice. It’s time for me to upgrade from my 6” Jet Jointer to a 8” parallelogram jointer. There’s a Delta DJ20 for sale on Craigslist for $1100. Seems a little high but not outrageous. With a Shelix head added it will be over $1500.
A new Grizzly G0490W with a Shelix is close to $1600 but it has more hp, mobile base and a few other goodies not on the Delta. I’ve never owned a Grizzly and I’m a bit nervous about the brand because of large price difference between it and Powermatic and Laguna. Grizzly seems under priced and Powermatic seems way over priced for a machine that looks almost exactly the same as the Grizzly. And I’ve read a bunch of horror stories/reviews of Grizzly power tools that arrive damaged.
What do you think of the DJ20 compared to the Grizzly and is $1100 too much for the Delta. Or should I go for the Grizzly that won’t be available for a couple months because of the switch to a new manufacturer.


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#1 posted 01-25-2016 01:53 PM

I would go for the Delta. In general, they make good machines.

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#2 posted 01-25-2016 01:59 PM

+1 for the Delta option, I too have a DJ-20 and even without a Shelix head I still love it.

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#3 posted 01-25-2016 02:15 PM

Thanks for your reply. What do you think about the price? And is a 1-1/2” hp motor enough for an 8” jointer?

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#4 posted 01-25-2016 02:29 PM

I’m not knowledgeable enough to weigh in on this, as I don’t own a jointer, but if I had to chooses id probably go with the Delta IF it was cheaper, closer to $800. Otherwise, I’d go with the Grizzly (if I were to read up and liked the reviews). That’s just my opinion!

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#5 posted 01-25-2016 02:36 PM

I have other Grizzly power tools and they perform well. Shipping damage can happen to any brand and is a function of the shipper not the power tool manufacturer.

Is Delta still in business? I heard somewhere that they went out of business. Also the local Woodcraft store told me that they discontinued carrying Delta tools due to customer service problems and availability of parts.

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#6 posted 01-25-2016 02:43 PM

That delta series of jointer is fantastic. I bought my DJ-15 (6” version) on craigslist for $250. Price seems a little high for the DJ20 but if it is in good shape it might be worth it.

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#7 posted 01-25-2016 02:50 PM

I have owned a good bit of Griz, and others like Powermatic and sawstop. Generally I’ve found in my 13+ years of owning them, is their larger pieces tend to be quite nice but the small little things is sometimes sketchy.

I have the 12” griz jointer with HSS knives and it’s been a wonderful machine and it’s been moved half way across the country and back. Mine is the parallel type too. I got mine with the thoughts of upgrading to the shelix but never have felt the need to it cuts just fine.

The DJ20 is a solid jointer as well, but for an 8” thats very high IMO. They may have priced it like that to start the negotiation.

Anyway I’ve also got the 17”HD bandsaw and had the 1023 tablesaw till I sold it (10 years of solid service) to upgrade to a sawstop.

Grizzly is a good brand.

Good luck!

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#8 posted 01-25-2016 02:51 PM

The price seems about right for a parallelogram jointer, I see some 8” dovetail jointers closer to the $800 mark but of the DJ-20’s I’ve seen come to market, all have been between $1000 & $1500. Mine is 1 1/2hp and works fine, trying to flatten stock that’s a full 8” wide will need sharp blades, but it’s never felt underpowered by any means.

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#9 posted 01-25-2016 03:09 PM

You get what you pay for, especially in tools. There is a world of difference between the old Delta and any Grizzly product. I would not buy from Delta today because of too many changes in ownership and resulting unavailability of parts and qualy control issues, together with a general decline in quality. However, many parts are still available for older Delta models through alternate sources and you can check on the internet, besides your primary concern would be bearing replacement I imagine, and you can (and I recommend) order new bearings with the Shelix head. As for price, you might get it down due to Delta’s current problems, but for an older model parallelogram jointer that’s not terribly out of line if in great condition. 1-1/2 hp motor is sufficient, especially if you convert to a Shellix head. Personally, I’m a big fan of PowerMatic, having acquired most while they were still made in the U.S.A.; and, although I would agree PM is not cheap, I do not agree it’s overpriced for the quality, durabity and precision you get.

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#10 posted 01-25-2016 03:11 PM

I have the dj20 works great . Bought it off of Craigslist couple years ago for 750 . Price seems high to me .

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#11 posted 01-25-2016 03:35 PM

I just bought a Craftex 8 inch/parralelogram/shelix head and just love it. Craftex is the Canadian brand for Grizzly, however the Grizzly has a flat belt which should be superior to the standard V belt found on the Craftex.

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#12 posted 01-25-2016 03:39 PM

Go for the Delta. The 1.5 hp is plenty with a shelix cutter head. I have a 12” jointer with a 1.5 hp and have lots of power. Just take smaller cuts the wider you go.

Good luck.

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#13 posted 01-25-2016 03:51 PM

I bought regular jet 8” for 700$. Guy I bought mine from bought a dj20 for about 1000$ to replace the jet. He wanted a beefier and easier to adjust machine.

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#14 posted 01-25-2016 04:10 PM

I’m guessing someone else thought the price was right because the Delta is sold. It was only on Craigslist for three days. Snooze ya lose…
Still thinking about the Grizzly but the fact that they changed manufacturers makes ya wonder. Did they do it to save money and will quality go down? Or, am I just over thinking this. I hope someone posts a review of the new Grizzly once it comes out in mid March.
Thanks for all the input. This is a great forum.

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#15 posted 01-25-2016 04:32 PM

I have Delta, Powermatic, Jet and other tools. I bought my first Grizzly tool months back. It is a 8”, long bed jointer with the spiral head.

At the time, I missed out on a Powermatic in the same category, but with knives, as well as a couple Deltas. Now, I believe my procrastination paid off. I am as happy as a clam with my Grizzly. I have ran more pieces of figured walnut, apple and so on than I have straight grain wood and have gotten very good results (little or no tear out) so I’m sold on the spiral head.

The old iron I looked at would have cost about the same, by the time I swapped the head for a Shelix. I can’t say it wouldn’t make for a better tool, but I can say I am happy with my [roughly] five hundred pound G0490X.

If it helps, here is a review I wrote on it: http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/6106

As an aside, as my new jointer was loaded into my truck, I noted there were about a hundred more in the Belview outlet.

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