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A35M

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01-25-2016 01:30 PM

Hello everyone. I’m new to site but have visited alot in last few months. So here’s the situation I was hoping you could help me with. Im getting ready to add some buit-ins in my house. My Craftsman table saw has seen better days so Ive been searching C/L for a month now. Finally found something that looks decent for my needs and is priced right (I think). The saw is a Delta Contractors saw with a 54” Biesemeyer fence. The saw has a newer motor and I’m told runs great. Asking price is $150.It’s an hour away but I’m willing to make the trip for good deal. Is this worth the drive in your your opinion? Thnx In advance guys.


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#1 posted 01-25-2016 01:37 PM

If the Biese fence is in good shape, IMO the saw would be a fair deal at twice the price. You’re not likely to beat that for $150.

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#2 posted 01-25-2016 02:18 PM

I think remember seeing a video series on YouTube John Heisz made about two table saws. I think one was one of those…Interesting story behind it. He said that According to the previous owner, the saw was used to cut wax blocks in a candle factory, and the saw was perfectly preserved from the wax buildup!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjK1ywqC4Pg

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#3 posted 01-25-2016 03:05 PM


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If the Biese fence is in good shape, IMO the saw would be a fair deal at twice the price. You re not likely to beat that for $150.

- knotscott

Thnx for the reply. Can you tell me whats the best way to check that particular fence for defects? And what else should I look for. Btw, he is throwing in the original fence, extensions for both sides and outfeed table. .

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#4 posted 01-25-2016 03:05 PM



I think remember seeing a video series on YouTube John Heisz made about two table saws. I think one was one of those…Interesting story behind it. He said that According to the previous owner, the saw was used to cut wax blocks in a candle factory, and the saw was perfectly preserved from the wax buildup!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjK1ywqC4Pg

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#5 posted 01-25-2016 03:10 PM

Thank you for the link sir. Wow! Amazing transformation of that little saw. I think mine won’t need that much work. (I hope) lol.

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#6 posted 01-25-2016 04:42 PM

op
If the Biese fence is in good shape, IMO the saw would be a fair deal at twice the price. You re not likely to beat that for $150.

- knotscott

Thnx for the reply. Can you tell me whats the best way to check that particular fence for defects? And what else should I look for. Btw, he is throwing in the original fence, extensions for both sides and outfeed table. .

- A35M

Take a decent straight edge with you (even the straight edge from something like a level should be ok), and check that the fence doesn’t bend, bow, or twist. Also, bring a square and check that the fence faces are perpendicular to the table all along the length…if it’s off a little, as long as it’s consistent, the fence can be adjusted to compensate….if it’s off in some places and fine in others, it’ll be harder to adjust, but could be done with some shimming, replacement faces, or an aux fence over the faces.

Check the table for reasonable flatness as long as you have the straight edge with you…you don’t need to get anal about it…it just needs to be reasonably flat. Do the main table and the wings separately…wings can be shimmed to be level with the main table as long as their not warped badly. Check underneath for any obvious cracks or breakage. It’s nice if the handwheels move smoothly, but they can be cleaned and lubed if not.

See if the motor runs smoothly. If it vibrates a lot, remove the belt and run it again….if it’s smooth, the belt and/or pulleys may need some attention (reasonable cost and minor effort). If the motor vibrates a lot with the belt removed, it could be something more serious. Check that the arbor flange doesn’t have excessive runout too. If it spins a blade without much vibration, it should be fine…if not, remove the blade or try a different blade to isolate whether the runout is coming from the blade or the flange. If there’s significant arbor runout, new bearings will usually help. It takes quite a bit to bend the arbor shaft.

These saws are fairly simple and fairly rugged. Most deviations from perfection can be reconciled fairly easily as long as nothing obvious is broken or wrong.

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#7 posted 01-25-2016 05:31 PM


op
If the Biese fence is in good shape, IMO the saw would be a fair deal at twice the price. You re not likely to beat that for $150.

- knotscott

Thnx for the reply. Can you tell me whats the best way to check that particular fence for defects? And what else should I look for. Btw, he is throwing in the original fence, extensions for both sides and outfeed table. .

- A35M

Take a decent straight edge with you (even the straight edge from something like a level should be ok), and check that the fence doesn t bend, bow, or twist. Also, bring a square and check that the fence faces are perpendicular to the table all along the length…if it s off a little, as long as it s consistent, the fence can be adjusted to compensate….if it s off in some places and fine in others, it ll be harder to adjust, but could be done with some shimming, replacement faces, or an aux fence over the faces.

Check the table for reasonable flatness as long as you have the straight edge with you…you don t need to get anal about it…it just needs to be reasonably flat. Do the main table and the wings separately…wings can be shimmed to be level with the main table as long as their not warped badly. Check underneath for any obvious cracks or breakage. It s nice if the handwheels move smoothly, but they can be cleaned and lubed if not.

See if the motor runs smoothly. If it vibrates a lot, remove the belt and run it again….if it s smooth, the belt and/or pulleys may need some attention (reasonable cost and minor effort). If the motor vibrates a lot with the belt removed, it could be something more serious. Check that the arbor flange doesn t have excessive runout too. If it spins a blade without much vibration, it should be fine…if not, remove the blade or try a different blade to isolate whether the runout is coming from the blade or the flange. If there s significant arbor runout, new bearings will usually help. It takes quite a bit to bend the arbor shaft.

These saws are fairly simple and fairly rugged. Most deviations from perfection can be reconciled fairly easily as long as nothing obvious is broken or wrong.

- knotscott

knotscott,
Thank you so much. Very good info there. I will do everything as explained.Now I hope the saw is still available.
A deal like this doesn’t last usually. Thanks again.

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#8 posted 01-25-2016 05:37 PM

Now I hope the saw is still available. A deal like this doesn’t last usually.
- A35M

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#9 posted 01-25-2016 05:46 PM

Yes, for that price and everything he was throwing in, you should’ve already bought it by now.
Anything that was mentioned as something that could be “off” can be corrected and still be a good investment.

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#10 posted 01-25-2016 07:17 PM

I will go get it today. No haggle necessary here which I like. Thnx everyone

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#11 posted 01-25-2016 07:32 PM

if that has the cast iron wings,too, its an excellent deal

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#12 posted 01-25-2016 08:30 PM

Well guys looks like OWWM rule #5 is right on. The saw is gone. :( I will continue my search. I’m now looking at a Ridgid 3650 for $350. Thnx again everyone

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#13 posted 01-25-2016 09:13 PM

Well guys looks like OWWM rule #5 is right on. The saw is gone. :( I will continue my search. I m now looking at a Ridgid 3650 for $350. Thnx again everyone

- A35M

I know that’s frustrating, but it wasn’t meant to be. There will be others, and that 3650 is one of them….that’s a fair deal too if the saw is in good shape.

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#14 posted 01-25-2016 09:19 PM

Telling us what city you are in will be helpful too.

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#15 posted 01-25-2016 09:22 PM

It hurts, but you’ll get over it and you’ll find something else that will work with your shop and your budget. I once missed out on an old 12” jointer for $100. I may have cried a little. But I found another jointer that is a serious workhorse, and I’ve (mostly) rebounded from the experience.

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