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Wildersworkshop

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01-23-2016 03:56 PM

I got this table saw for free from a family friend a couple months back but it doesnt have a seriel plate, so I cant search for a manual or find any info it. Its a 12” heavy cast iron contractors Craftsman table saw.
Anyone know any info on it?

-- Woodworking is 1/3 planning, 1/3 execution and 1/3 changing the plan to cover the mistake you made in the execution.


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#1 posted 01-23-2016 04:07 PM

Perhaps a few photos would help idetify it..?

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#2 posted 01-23-2016 06:41 PM

I can see the dilemma … or I guess I don’t see.

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#3 posted 01-23-2016 06:50 PM

Well, I’m stumped.

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#4 posted 01-23-2016 06:50 PM

They didn’t make many 12” saws… and most were cabinet types. But here are a couple manuals that might help:

113.299131 Craftsman 12 inch Table Saw Manual
Craftsman 12 inch Table Saw (Part Number 62121)

You can scan the photos and documents over at the VintageMachinery site for more info. Pictures would help identify it further.

Cheers,
Brad

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#5 posted 01-23-2016 07:03 PM

You could also say don’t look a gift saw in the throat plate :-)

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Wildersworkshop

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#6 posted 01-23-2016 10:26 PM

Sorry guys I thought I uploaded a couple photos, still new to this

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#7 posted 01-23-2016 10:31 PM

belt drive or cable drive?

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#8 posted 01-23-2016 10:39 PM

If nothing else, the “motorized” label on the front plate must have been a real strong selling point! :)

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#9 posted 01-23-2016 11:34 PM


belt drive or cable drive?

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I suspect it’s direct drive, probably with a universal motor. Wildersworkshop have you heard it run before….a universal motor would be pretty loud. If it had an induction motor most of the noise would be air movement from the blade.

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#10 posted 01-23-2016 11:59 PM

Appears to be the 113.299131 I tried to link a manual to before (and screwed it up). That based upon those unusual front mounted tilt and raise cranks, which are kind of unique… here they are shown in the manual:

Lemme try again: 113.299131 Craftsman 12 inch Table Saw Manual

Cheers,
Brad

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#11 posted 01-24-2016 01:37 AM

I have a Craftsman 12 inch table saw Model #113.24181. It is direct drive. Looks just like yours, except the model
number. Do not know what the difference is, maybe one is a newer model. My manual was printed 4/77.

Knotscott: This is the only table saw I have ever used, so my experience is limited, but I do not notice it being loud, other than air noise from blade movement. Did Sears use induction motors ever, to your knowledge? We bought it in 1997 from older guy who was selling off his personal shop. He told us then that he had recently put a new
motor on it. It is the same motor model number as per specs in the manual.

Thank you for your insight. Tim

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#12 posted 01-24-2016 01:47 AM

Edit: I do not know why it printed the last two sentences like that, I did not hit return after typing “new”.
can not seem to fix it it. Sorry.

Tim.

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#13 posted 01-24-2016 01:51 AM

Did Sears use induction motors ever, to your knowledge?

That motor dosen’t appear to have any brushes, so it’s probably an induction motor – although it appears to be specific to those saws, not an off the shelf one. There is also mention of a ‘start relay’ which further indicates it’s an induction motor – and it may actually be a relay (not shown in the parts diagram) or a more common centrifugal switch. As for model numbers, Sears gave the same machines different model numbers based on stuff like if it came with a stand or not, type of fence, etc… so they are probably all the same under the hood with only minor differences.

Cheers,
Brad

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#14 posted 01-24-2016 02:09 AM

Thanks guys you have been alot of help I appreciate it.

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#15 posted 01-24-2016 02:34 AM

Brad: thank you for your quick reply. I am ignorant in all things motor. So, that is good to know. I have owned
the saw for 19 years, and I have never had a single problem with it….until today. The blade would not raise.
The elevation crank would turn, and I could watch the elevation worm and teeth rotate, but no go. It was like
something was stripped. I turned the saw on it’s back(not upside down), and magically the blade would go up
and down. I thought problem solved. Put saw back in upright position, sprayed some tri-flow lubricant in all
the gears, and cranked blade up, and down a couple of times to spread lubricant. It did the same thing again.
Put saw on it’s back again, and again the blade went up, and down. Returned saw upright, and made my three cuts. Did not have the courage to do the up/down thing again. Help, does anyone have an idea what happened?

Gratitude,
Tim

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