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Forum topic by Karson posted 02-02-2007 05:43 AM 2285 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Karson

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02-02-2007 05:43 AM

There had been some discussion on some of the blogs and projects that the way to increase your tool count was to buy a new tool when you start a new project.

I commented that it doesn’t require that the tool be used in that project, only that you purchase one.

So this is my new purchase. It’s a dowel cutting tool. It’s the Veritas Dowel Maker I purchased the complete kit called Master Dowel Maker Kit.

I started to work at the Mason Dixon Woodworkers Club toy making on Wed. They work in the shop one day a seek, until it get close to Christmas. Then it might require other days. Some people also work in their own shop. Tonight I was cutting walnut wheels for a toy truck (400 Wheels).

The dowels will be used for the headlights and were made out of cherry stock. They make around 1200 toys to be given to charities and hospitals at Christmas time. They’ve done this for 11 years.

You cut square stock 1/8” bigger than the finished dowel. I’ll also make some 5/16 walnut dowels this week for the axles, so it will require 1/2” walnut.

Once you get the machine knives adjusted the dowels come out polished. I took the machine over to the workshop on Wed and 5-6 people tried it out.

It won’t pay if you only need walnut or cherry or maple dowels. But I do a lot of imported woods where you couldn’t buy dowels of that species unless you really paid through the nose. Like Pink Ivory or Ebony dowels.

It leaves about 5” at the end that is still square or partially round. So I’m trying to think of a way to grab the finished dowell and continue pulling the stock through. I could do that up to 1/2” with a drill, but 5/8 is too big. Maybe sand it down for 1” and then chuck it in the drill and run the drill in reverse to finish and capture all of wood. So lose 1” to gain 5”, sounds like a good tradeoff. A 1/4” dowell might shatter if put under too much torque pressure. But that’s the fun of experimenting.

Not that I’m selling but if you do need some wierd dowel and we can come up with the wood. I’m willing to help. Like Don’s bamboo pins that he used in his box.

The tool will cut from 1/4 to 1” by 1/16 but you can cut over and under size so almost any size might be possible.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †


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MsDebbieP

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#1 posted 02-02-2007 01:34 PM

now isn’t THAT interesting (and I never thought of making my own dowel thingy for my little heart box… )

That’s quite an amazing group you are part of—what a wonderful gift you give the community.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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oscorner

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#2 posted 02-03-2007 06:17 PM

You could have purchased a lathe and had a tool that would have done more. Of course, depending on the length of your dowels, 1/4” would be tricky in lengths over 12” without some support in the center while turning. It’s just a thought, because I use my lathe to turn dowels when I need one right a way or of a size that is not readily available..

My hat is off to you and the Mason Dixon Woodworkers Club’s charity work.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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Karson

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#3 posted 02-03-2007 06:34 PM

Oscorner: I need to make 120 ft of 5/16 walnut for the axles and it takes about 20 seconds to turn a 3’ section. Lathe is an option but it would be hard to beet this jig for some small production runs.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †

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Obi

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#4 posted 02-03-2007 06:38 PM

I started making my own dowels with my cordless drill. I had a hole. I got a piece of square scrap, cut the stick down to about 6-8” and stuck it in the end of the cordless drill with a piece of 60 grit sandpaper and squeezed the trigger. When you don’t have much money to spend but have a lot of sticks and time on your hands, it was kinda like sandpaper lathing. I’d sand while I watched videos on my computer. It also works when you need a special dowel made from a special wood. I’m just getting started and have to make due with what i have, until the Money Boat reaches my port.

And the guy that has me build all the stuff just so he can justify giving me money without making me feel like a charity case said he wanted me to build a mission style table for his remotes (and a mantel for his fireplace, and his kitchen cabinets, and a wind stop for the fireplace hole to stop the wind from rushing into his front room) and I told him I wanted to do mortise and tenon but needed the bits for which I am short of funds so he’s going to order them for me. God must really, really, really like me to give me such good friends, and surround me with such Quality People.

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Obi

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#5 posted 02-03-2007 06:40 PM

There’s no way you can make 3’ of 5/16 dowels on a lathe in 20 seconds. That tool can NOT be beat for the purpose you bought it for. Good Buy, Karson.

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oscorner

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#6 posted 02-03-2007 07:14 PM

I beg to differ. If you start with 1/2” stock and at 1000 rpms, it goes pretty fast. But, Karson knows what works best for him. My main point was that for the money, he could have bought a machine that would have done more, that’s all, Obi.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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Obi

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#7 posted 02-03-2007 07:30 PM

Maybe I should have said there’s no way I could have made 3’ of dowel in 20 seconds

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scottb

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#8 posted 02-03-2007 10:28 PM

I like your sentiment Karson… but unless the tool figures into the project I’m afraid the wife would surely veto the purchase (If it doesn’t magically appear that is). Maybe that’s why I keep such a diverse list of projects, some to show I’ve got everything I need and others that only need “one little” thing. :)

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Bill

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#9 posted 02-27-2007 02:37 AM

That is a nifty tool you picked Karson. Maybe you can use the end bits to turn pens or something. Then you would not waste the wood.

Obi, that was a good economical idea! I will have to keep that in mind next time I need a dowel.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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gizzard

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#10 posted 02-27-2007 05:42 AM

When I first started making rustic stuff, I drilled a 1/4” hole in an old framing square. I’d rough out a dowel with a carving knife and when I got close to 1/4” I’d pound the roughed out dowel through the hole in framing square. Worked just fine. Now I’ve read where you can purchase steel plates with various sized holes to make dowels doing exactly the same thing. I didn’t invent this method. I read about it somewhere and gave it a try.
I wish we had something like you all have Karson. I like making toys. Keep up the good work.

-- Dennis, Tennessee

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#11 posted 02-27-2007 06:12 AM

I made a jig for making 1/2” dowels, when I built my Windsor chairs. It’s very simple. You mount a router on it, If anyones interested I’ll take an image of it. You can make a different jig for each dowel size.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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Don

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#12 posted 02-27-2007 08:08 AM

Count me as interested, Dick.

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.dpb-photos.com/

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Bill

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#13 posted 02-28-2007 06:48 PM

I would like to see that plan too Dick!

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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Obi

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#14 posted 03-01-2007 01:16 AM

i’M INTERESTED TOO, dICK I wanna be the Dowel King of Central California

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Obi

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#15 posted 03-10-2007 02:52 PM

I didnt have the $300 to buy your fancy riggin’ so I ordered this one instead

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