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Zuki

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11-12-2007 10:43 PM

Topic tags/keywords: used tools

Well I was looking a our local e-classifieds and this guy is selling a Dewalt Powershop 7730 (10” radial arm saw) for $300. He is going to send me some pics. Any of you LJs have or seen one? Comments?

I also noticed that a local auction house will be auctioning the following items next Saturday:

Delta table saw
Potras table saw
Beaver drill press
General planer
Powermatic planer
Delta table saw & table
Canadian drill press
beaver band saw – anyone know anything about beavers??
lathe – no brand

I have no models yet as it was not posted to their site. Im thinking it will be older stuff and maybe 240v. Gonna take a look anyway.

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mot

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#1 posted 11-12-2007 10:47 PM

$300 is a tad high for that saw. You can find them around for $50. An average price might be closer to $150. For $300 it should be in pretty stellar condition.

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Zuki

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#2 posted 11-12-2007 10:53 PM

I was thinking $300 was a little steep. I will post the pics when he sends them to me.

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#3 posted 11-13-2007 08:13 PM

Mot is right. As for radial arm saws, a lot of people try to give them away. They take up a lot of space, are heavy, require a lot of knowledge and set-up to use safely, and they are a dying breed. Most people except for the old school guys and the serious woodworkers have shifted to the modern “chop saw” or “miter saw” for cross cuts.

$300 is way too much. Don’t pay over $50 for any Radial arm saw unless it is one of the really old ones which were built extremely well, and it is in great shape. Not because they aren’t worth it, but because they are a dime-a-dozen if you keep an eye out for them. Especially the Craftsman models from the last few decades… Craftsman sold thousands of those RAS’s and these days there are a lot of people just giving them away or trashing them. Just look on Craigslist every day for a week or two and you will see what I mean.

I have a 1959 DeWalt RAS which I absolutely love after restoring it. The thing was built like a tank. It is far superior in quality, to many of the models made since its time. But I even see that same saw in the classifieds all the time.

I would also recommend staying away from models which are covered with plastic or plastic parts. Too much thinly stamped sheet metal is not a good Idea either. Most of them were not built to last. Think about how heavy that powerhead is, and how it must track all the way out to the end of that arm and still stay true. Make sure the arm and riser are solid as a rock or your cuts will not be accurate. Pull the saw all the way toward you and test for side-to-side play.

For other information on old woodworking machines, check out OWWM.COM

-- Happy woodworking!

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#4 posted 11-13-2007 09:33 PM

I second Blake. The Old Woodworking Machines website is a gold mine for info on vintage machinery. OWWM.com is the main information page and the OWWM.org site is the forum. If those guys can’t answer your questions, no one can. I’d recommend doing a little surfing on the main site before posing questions on the forum. 90% of your questions can be answered on the main site; from machinery identification to born on dates to full blown restorations.

-- Eric Olson Springfield, MO Rock Creek Designs

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#5 posted 11-13-2007 09:55 PM

I have an older Rockwell radial arm saw. Mostly i make use of the bench i made for it instead of the saw. Maybe when i figure out how to get dado blades on a chop saw to plow out door frame sills, i’ll get rid of it.

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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PanamaJack

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#6 posted 11-13-2007 10:48 PM

I believe the guy is dreaming a bit Zuki. I sold a digital Craftsman for $200 fours year ago, it was mint.

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)

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Zuki

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#7 posted 11-14-2007 01:48 AM

This is one of the pics he sent. After reviewing all your comments I think Im gonna say thanks but no thanks. Gonna save my quarters for that 10” Bosch DB slider.

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Blake

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#8 posted 11-14-2007 01:57 AM

It does look like a good saw, the dewalts are better than other brands (in my opinion). And it seems to be in great shape. I thought you were referring to that first picture (above) but then I realized that was Mot’s post!

Maybe you can ask for a lower price and see if you “win” the bid. I think for that one I personally would try to get it for $150 or $200 tops if I was in the market? Otherwise, wait for others to come along, they will.

And I don’t mean to insult the guy, but bartering for tools is what I do for a living so I am sort of ruthless.

-- Happy woodworking!

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Dan'um Style

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#9 posted 11-14-2007 02:07 AM

$300 might not be a bad price. Looks like a nice saw. Sure it is better then you can buy for new in that price range. Maybe even twice the price.

Alot depends on where you live , ..... also how much / and how soon/ you can make a return on it.

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Blake

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#10 posted 11-14-2007 02:09 AM

Even after what I said above, Dan is right.

-- Happy woodworking!

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#11 posted 11-14-2007 02:23 AM

Here in NL were do not see many tools in the classifieds. They are usually snapped up quite quick. Last week there was a Dewalt 12” SB mitre saw for $150 . . . it was gone before I could call. I gave up going to yard sales as they normally consist of vases, baby toys and maternity clothes.

I should really address the shop space challenge right now before I buy more tools. Otherwise I will be creating yet another hurdle.

That being sad . . . Blake you know anything about Beaver brand tools?

Tks

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Neal Meyers Jr

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#12 posted 11-14-2007 03:05 AM

I agree most of the RAS on the used market are junk and anything above free is too expensive. I have one that, my future father-in-law at the time, sold my father. It is a 1950’s Craftsman and still works well. I use it as part of my long work/chop saw bench, Similar to the one Norm built on his show. I like it but only use it for rough work. I have built several jigs for cutting moldings with a molding cutting head. I literately picked one up along the side of the road several days ago. It is a Black and Decker and looks like a 7.25 in saw mounted on an arm. It does work but I want to modify it to accept a router for over arm routing. I’ll try and post pics if I can make the mods.
As for the used and yard sales I too have given up on them. Either the tools are junk or way over priced. Too many people think every old tool is an antique and put it on a shelf or over price it. I’ve given up on looking for old wood working tools at flea markets and yard sales all together. If they find me though I take them all.

-- Neal Meyers Jr

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#13 posted 11-14-2007 03:14 AM

Zuki. check out beaver tools on old woodworking machines.com, there is some info there

-- bryano

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Blake

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#14 posted 11-14-2007 03:39 AM

I don’t mean to brag, but this is my BABY. The old saws can be really well built and with some TLC, very accurate.

-- Happy woodworking!

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