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bahgheera

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01-14-2016 06:14 PM

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Hi everyone, I’ve been lurking here for a while. I’m a newbie at woodworking. So I have this project (this will actually be my first project) that I’d like to do, it’s a toy sink for my two year old. We have this kitchen set, but the sink has no sink – it’s just a cabinet with a hole in it. So I’d like to build a simple box to fit in the hole, and I was thinking 1/8” molding on the top to trim it but I have no idea how to attach trim to the edge of a piece of wood without there being something visible. Any thoughts on this? Thanks for any ideas.


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#1 posted 01-14-2016 06:20 PM

Tightbond II or III glue works very well. I will use small pin nails to hold the wood if i cannot clamp it while the glue dries. You can use weights of some sort instead of clamps to hold the wood in place.

-- Chris K

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#2 posted 01-14-2016 07:33 PM

You can use “tape clamps” to hold molding while the glues dries. Masking tape will work, but cellophane packing tape is better because you can stretch it so that it is very tight.

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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bahgheera

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#3 posted 01-14-2016 07:36 PM

Ok, so I could just use glue only? Any recommendations as to what type of glue?

Thanks for the responses.

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#4 posted 01-14-2016 08:58 PM

Titebond. There are three kinds (I, II and III). I is the basic glue and probably will work just fine for you. If it’s going to get wet a lot, Titebond III is designed for outdoor/water present use. You can get it at any big box hardware store. It’s reliable, inexpensive, decent open time, and available.

Find some videos on glue ups. For something as simple as this, a thin bead of glue down the center of the edge, press the trim down and slide back and forth. You should get some “squeeze out”. Clean that up with a damp rag, or, before you put the glue down, mask the edges with painters tape, or coat with furniture wax (Johnsons is fine).

Clamp in place one way or another (tape does work fine for trim like this). As long as it holds it down with some pressure in the right place, it will be fine. There is a clever clamp for this kind of job (Bandy at Rocklers, or 3 way clamp at FastCap), but you don’t need it for a simple job like this.

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#5 posted 01-14-2016 08:59 PM

As ChrisK said “Tightbond II or III glue works very well.”

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#6 posted 01-14-2016 09:04 PM

Also, as mentioned, trim must be clamped/held tight in place while glue dries.

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#7 posted 01-14-2016 09:21 PM

So there’s a sink cutout, but no sink? A couple years ago I built a kitchen playset for my daughter (pictures here). I routed the cutout for the sink, and then got a small grey Rubbermaid container, slightly larger than the cutout, and screwed it to the underside of the counter. Not sure how big your cutout is, but it is an easy option. I think I spent 5 bucks for the container at HD.

I cut the handles off the container, and screwed two pieces of scrap in their place (screws from inside the sink). Then I screwed that to the underside of the countertop. You can’t see the screws in the sink because they’re hidden under the sink lip. Its been 2 years, and played with hard, and now my son is abusing it, and it’s held up just fine.

Just an alternative, easy option.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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bahgheera

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#8 posted 01-15-2016 02:14 AM

Wow, I don’t know how I did it but I totally didn’t see the words ‘tightbond II or III’. Yep, I’m an idiot. Anyway, thanks for all the replies and I will get started on this first thing tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Thanks again everyone.

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dhazelton

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#9 posted 01-15-2016 02:28 PM

Hot melt glue gun – no clamps needed.

BUT – I second the suggestion to use a plastic tub for the sink (kittly litter boxes come in small sizes and are deep or go to a dollar store and get a plastic bowl). I would just set it in the hole with the rim of the tub holding it up. That means you need a tub slightly larger than your existing hole and cut your hole to fit your tub.

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#10 posted 01-15-2016 02:35 PM

I built a kitchen for my granddaughter. I cut a hole for the sink and just dropped a metal dog bowl in the hole. You never know what kids will attempt to “cook” and this is extremely easy to remove.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/102554

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#11 posted 01-15-2016 03:15 PM

Spammer alert, thanksoso(post#11),I wouldn’t click on the link in that post.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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MT_Stringer

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#12 posted 01-15-2016 03:17 PM

I like the idea of a drop in plastic tub or bowl, or even mounted underneath.

If you decide to glue on the trim for your box, do as suggested and maybe use a small nail or two to hold the trim until the glue dries. I have told this story several times but here goes anyway…In 1988 I built a work bench in my gargage when we first moved into our house. A couple of years ago, I dismantled it and did a garage make-over for my woodworking habit. The drawers were 3/4 inch pine glued together with plain old Elmer’s glue and a couple of 4p finishing nails. I couldn’t get them apart. I had the beat them apart with a shop hammer. Some of the wood separated at the glue joints, but the glue held fast!

Good luck. Post some pics of your project.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#13 posted 01-15-2016 03:18 PM



Spammer alert, thanksoso(post#11),I wouldn t click on the link in that post.

- distrbd

It won’t be around long. :-)

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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bahgheera

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#14 posted 02-14-2016 07:04 PM

Forgot to come back and post the end result here! Yeah yeah, I’m a procrastinator. So here’s what I wound up with.

The bottom of the box, you can see my first attempt at rabbeting – https://goo.gl/photos/o5gRQ31uweR59V1d8

The inside of the box with no molding – https://goo.gl/photos/B9gtQbMnHdg9QzTC6

The sink, with crappy molding that wasn’t cut at precisely the right angle – https://goo.gl/photos/QMgAcZPWxLMQ4wp56

And here it is in the cabinet, crooked because it isn’t screwed in yet – https://goo.gl/photos/BAB9mmpPc37VEVtV9

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