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patron

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01-26-2010 04:16 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question sharpening

i have been looking at the ws3000 sharpener , simple at $200.00 .
the accessories (extra , rockler ) seem to add up to maybe $150.00 .
i want to be able to sharpen my chisels and plane irons ,
the wide gizmo looks good , but as i don’t know the function of the rest of the stuff ,
what do i really need ?
i thought the thing sharpened from the bottom ,
and you could see the edge being worked .
but some of the stuff looks like it is for the top .
i’ve never seen one before , so don’t know anything about it ,
and dont want to spend money for toys i may never use .
how does it work , and what do i really need ?
thank you .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle


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matt garcia

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#1 posted 01-26-2010 04:24 AM

I have that very sharpener and let me tell you, it is a great tool!! I’ve bought extra glasses so I can just change them out when I go to different grits. I even made a 90 degree jig to final hone my cabinet scrapers before I put a burr on it!! Great tool!!

-- Matt Garcia Wannabe Period Furniture Maker, Houston TX

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Padre

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#2 posted 01-26-2010 04:36 AM

I second Matt. If it is for chisels and plane irons, it is great.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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patron

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#3 posted 01-26-2010 04:40 AM

thanks guys ,
i was just wondering how much of the ’ extras ’ i realy need ,
i guess i’ll google it ,
and see if i can find an instructional video .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Karson

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#4 posted 01-26-2010 04:42 AM

David: Try my Sharpening Station and save yourself $200.00

You want to try it, I’ll help you with it.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 01-26-2010 04:43 AM

Hey Bud
I have one too and it does a good job. I bought maybe 6 aditional glasses plus lots of different grits of psa sand paper up to 2000 grit .So I have at least $200 in extras. I use to use the scary sharp methoud and it worked great but just took longer and it just cost what a piece of glass pluss sandpaper cost.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Rj

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#6 posted 01-26-2010 04:50 AM

I also have that sharpener and love it !!! its small enough to keep right by your work & it only takes seconds to keep your tools sharp. I use mine alot! it gives you a scary sharp edge.
I would get extra glass disks and thats all I would get… you can always order the other stuff at a later date. I mainly use 400 & 1000 grit for my lathe tools and up to the finer honing grits for my other tools. The finer grits seem to last longer because I normaly only use them for honing . You can use after market PSA lapping film/paper and cut your own disks and with the left overs I make sanding blocks different shapes and sizes to sharpen my odd shaped tools gouges etc. Here’s a link to a site where I order mine from http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=toolshop&Product_Code=ST-MAF.XX&Category_Code=&Search=MICRO

The thing I like about this tool is you can set the bevel angle and then set it for a micro bevel

Woodcraft has free S&H tool sells for 199.99 plus you get an extra sloted disk or a leather honing disk .
http://www.woodcraft.com/Family/2020310/2020310.aspx

Brian Havens has one and really likes his also!

-- Rj's Woodworks,San Jose & Weed Ca,

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Douglas Bordner

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#7 posted 01-26-2010 05:57 AM

I’ve been itching for one for over a year. From what I’ve seen you will probably want the wide blade attachment if you have any plane irons over two inches. Also there is a new wrinkle, in that DMT is now making continuous diamond disks that don’t wear like the sandpaper does. They make a multi-disk grinding kit which includes a mounting plate that sits atop the glass plate, and there is an adhesive disk that then hold the diamond plates in place. They also offer a honing kit that has diamond paste to bring up a mirror finish. I probably would get the first kit that actually does the grinding, and use fine paper and the leather disk to do the honing.
Of course I’d probably better save up to get any of it, and that’s been slow going.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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patron

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#8 posted 01-26-2010 06:06 AM

thank you all again ,
i’ve been looking at the video ,
and understand how it works now ,

karson i went through your post ,
and it looks like something i would do if i had the time .
what i really want is something of the rack ,
that beats sharpening freehand on my disk sander .
at work today , i hit another nail , and last week hit some cement .
i like the idea that i can set the angle and resharpen to that place again

what i gathered on the video ,
was that you don’t need all the bells and whistles unless you are doing
carving , turning tools .
the basics come with the tool .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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WayneC

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#9 posted 01-26-2010 06:32 AM

There are number of reviews on the site. I did this one a while back….

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/372

Sharpening from below is supposed to be for carving and lathe tools.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#10 posted 01-26-2010 07:10 AM

Karson – That’s a pretty cool setup you’ve come up….well done!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#11 posted 01-26-2010 07:42 AM

I have a Tormek with all accessories…and while I like it…it was spendy…too spendy, I think, and now is a good time to save some bucks…honestly? You could get some great waterstones up to 8000, holders, and honing guides to do the same thing for less than $200-300 I bet….there are guys out there still doing it the old fashioned way and getting great edges. Check out latest Highland woodworking for waterstones, etc. Lee Valley has their full catalog online in PDF format to be read by Adobe Readers….and it’s a great catalog to have on the computer. They have Japanese stones, guides, everything…up to 8000. Sure machinery can be “quicker”...but is it really with all the set-up? I’m not certain I can answer that question fully…I used to use a three oil stone set-up. Still have it…and use it here and there. If you have jointer blades and such…then a machine set-up will do the trick.

-- /\/\/\ BarryW /\/\/\ Stay so busy you don't have time to die.

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Bob Kollman

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#12 posted 01-26-2010 07:43 AM

Sorry, all I have is a bench grinder and some cheap stanley chissels—-Hack em—hack em—-

-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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patron

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#13 posted 01-26-2010 07:59 AM

the last 5 years , i work anywhere up to two hours away , on very rustic work sites ,
if i chip my chisel on framing , all i can do is buy a sharp one for door hardware ,
nobody pays me to sharpen chisels , by the time i get home ,
all i can do is lay down and rest , maybe get some food .
i must have 30 chisels , all dull !
i sharpen them on the disk sander and take of the bur,
on a flat surface with a piece of 150 sand paper .
i am not going to spend the whole weekend on a wet stone .
my bench paring chisels , are not to bad , but they never leave the shop .
the other day , i was cutting out a 4×6 step block ,
and someone had put a 2×2 steel angle iron under it in a dado ,
ruined my $80.00 carbide 1/8” combo blade ,
i don’t use those throw away cheap blades ,
to much finishing work .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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degoose

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#14 posted 01-26-2010 12:09 PM

Hey David I just had one delivered earlier this month and it is the greatest way of sharpening that I have found… I can’t afford the time or the expense of the other sharpening systems…I intend to do a review on this in next week or so… I have sharpened all my chisels and a few from some friends…

-- Drink twice... and don't bother to cut... @ lazylarrywoodworks.com.au For lovers of all things timber...

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#15 posted 01-26-2010 01:57 PM

The WS3000 is the greatest thing to come along since sliced bread. Brought it home about a month ago and for a test I took a Millers Falls #9 plane i had got from my fathers estate several years ago had given up on it as it just didn’t do the job. Within 5 min. I was shaving hard maple strips so thin you could see through them.

-- Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else

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