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rwe2156

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01-12-2016 02:04 PM

How do you actually do the calculations?

The only “knowns” I have are the total height of drawers + dividers will be 35” and the top row will be 3” high.
The drawers will be inset and the dividers will be 3/4”.
The bottom two rows would be equal in height around 7”.

If I do the math I come up with 3, 4 7/8, 7 7/8, 12 3/4 obviously not gonna work.
I’ll come up with some pleasing dims, but just curious about this.

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#1 posted 01-12-2016 02:33 PM

Don’t get too caught up in the ratios. While the ratio is in most cases a good place to start, adjust for function. Your over all project can be determined by the ratio, but strict adherence is as you have found is not likely on all of the parts of a project.
1.6

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#2 posted 01-12-2016 03:34 PM

It’s like Mr. Gibbs explained to Capt Jack Sparrow, they are more actual guidelines than rules :-)

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#3 posted 01-12-2016 04:43 PM

I wouldn’t even worry about golden ratio for drawer front sizes, just for the entire bank of drawers. Just make it generally rectangular in a manner that is pleasing to the eye. Also consider the style of furniture you are emulating. Arts and crafts, modern, Victorian, Federal etc will dictate shapes more than the golden ratio.

The math is just short side x 1.6 = the long side.

I often think about it when building wide doors. For example when cabinet doors are wider than they are tall, they don’t look right with the arts and crafts furniture I build. So I divide the door panel with another stile, which yields two vertical rectangles.

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#4 posted 01-12-2016 05:43 PM

I would pitch the golden ratio and check this out.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/4794

I know, i know, the golden ration is_. [Fill in the blank with any Divine word]

Basically the book linked above makes better cases for ratios to use.

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#5 posted 01-12-2016 06:33 PM

Though I have made a GR guide, I don’t follow it as an absolute.
Bill

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#6 posted 01-12-2016 10:59 PM



How do you actually do the calculations?

The only “knowns” I have are the total height of drawers + dividers will be 35” and the top row will be 3” high.
The drawers will be inset and the dividers will be 3/4”.
The bottom two rows would be equal in height around 7”.

If I do the math I come up with 3, 4 7/8, 7 7/8, 12 3/4 obviously not gonna work.
I ll come up with some pleasing dims, but just curious about this.

- rwe2156

Don’t worry about applying phi to small individual pieces, start with the larger design and work down to the details. You can also use thirds or fifths as design ratios. If you are making a dresser, divide the overall piece into vertical sections, then you may, if you choose, subdivide each section horizontally. The important thing is balance. Beware of using halves, the eye will notice discrepancies quicker than with odd numbered ratios. You can use halves, but don’t overdue it.

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#7 posted 01-12-2016 11:36 PM

rwe, you might find this link helpful.

-- Art

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rwe2156

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#8 posted 01-13-2016 12:47 PM

Art -thanks this is what I need!

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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