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ljment

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01-25-2010 05:18 PM

Hello, I am new to the forum.
I have a Delta contractors table saw, and I am thinking of upgrading to a 3hp, left tilt, cabinet saw. Most of the machines I’ve looked at are $2000 or more. But the laguna is around $1300. Does anyone have any experience with this saw?


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#1 posted 01-25-2010 05:20 PM

I would get this one:

http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-3HP-220V-Cabinet-Table-Saw-with-Long-Rails-Riving-Knife/G0691

I believe its the same saw, but from online experience, have better customer support.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#2 posted 01-25-2010 05:25 PM

I agree with Purplev
Lagunas customer service is very poor and Grizzly’s is great the two saws are probably mad in the same factory

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#3 posted 01-25-2010 08:50 PM

Thanks guys. Turns out, one of Grizzly’s showrooms is an hr away from me in PA. Are their jointers, and other products know to be quality machines also?

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#4 posted 01-27-2010 04:29 PM

I have settled on the Saw Stop table saw. The incredible saftey features of this saw have me sold. Plus it appears to be a very high quality machine in addition to the saftey issue.

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#5 posted 01-27-2010 04:31 PM

thats a good solid choice. which one did you settled on? the contractor? professional? or industrial model?

I personally like the professional model for it’s dust collection features that are lacking on the other models (as it’s a newer model)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#6 posted 01-27-2010 04:54 PM

Dont forget to look at Ebay and Craigs List too. You can get some great deals on high end used saws.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#7 posted 01-27-2010 05:49 PM

I think I will get the professional model.

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#8 posted 01-29-2010 09:23 AM

I have seen one of these machines in the Laguna showroom in Irvine. It is a great saw but if you are looking for safety go with the Dove Tail model, It is basically the same machine as the other but when you raise and lower the blade the riving knife stays the same distance from the blade. The other models of saws out there raise and lower the blade at an angle and on some cuts the riving knife is so far away from the blade it becomes unsafe. Saw Stops get expensive when working with green woods or on high humidity days when the brake engages and you have to start replacing components.

-- "All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved" -Sun Tzu

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#9 posted 01-29-2010 05:34 PM

The Grizzly is made in the same factory with the same components, plus has a Leeson motor. The Griz CS is known to be exceptional, so I wouldn’t hesitate at all to go that route, especially if you can save shipping costs.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#10 posted 01-29-2010 05:45 PM

[quote]SawStop saws cut most wet wood without a problem. However, if the wood is very green or wet (for example, wet enough to spray a mist when cutting), or if the wood is both wet and pressure treated, then the wood may be sufficiently conductive to trigger the brake. Accordingly, the best practice is to dry wet or green wood before cutting by standing it inside and apart from other wood for about one day. You can also cut wet pressure treated wood and other conductive material by placing the saw in bypass mode to deactivate the safety system.[/quote]

-- -- Neil

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#11 posted 01-29-2010 05:51 PM

by the way- the SS safety device can be turned off for suspicious lumber that might trip it off. but mostly – we cut dry wood on the TS so it’ll be on.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#12 posted 01-30-2010 05:18 AM

OK, so I drive 2 hrs to the Grizzly showroom near me. Nice store.
I check out all the stuff, and I decide to start small and see how it goes. I buy a DeWalt planer and a 2 hp Grizzly dust remover. Spent about $800. I get home and open the Grizzly…....the box looked OK.
Inside, however, the styrofom is all beat up. Long story short, the thing is all bent up, not repairable.
Call customer service, they are not able to find any record of the sale, which took place 3 hrs before (I threw out my receipt….dumb) . Eventually I find the reciept and call back. I got some snotty little jerk who had no appreciation for the fact that I just took a 2 hr drive, each way, to pick this machine up, so that I would not have to wait for it to be delivered. He offered to send a “carrier” who would “call at a later date”, to arrange to pick up the thing, bring it back to Griz , and then send a new one to me. But I wanted the thing ASAP, that’s why I made the drive. So, I offered to repeat my drive and exchange it, the next day, so I could move along with my project. But, I felt I was entitled to a little consideration for my time, effort, inconvenience, and possible future business. If I wanted to deal with shipping, I would not have made the drive to begin with. They offered zero consideration if I made the drive again. I said, look, give me 10% off on my next purchase and we’ll call it even….....that seems reasonable to me, given the fact that on my first foray into the world of Grizzly, I received a busted machine.
NFW, says the Grizzly dude.
Gonna return the dust machine and take my business to one of the other dozen companies who sell the exact same product and see how it goes from there.
No Grizzz for me.

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#13 posted 01-30-2010 03:42 PM

Sounds like one big dent in Grizzly’s exceptional CS. It does sound like some sort of compensation for your trouble is in order. Grizzly’s president shows up on a few woodworking forums periodically and has been known to get personally involved with issues. You might try contacting him…Shiraz Balolia or Papagrizzly= depending on the website.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#14 posted 01-31-2010 01:34 AM

Hi Guys!.

One of my friends bought a Laguna left tilt table saw. I’ve done a couple of cuts with it and helped my friend to assemble it. It is a very good machine. Now…I believe Laguna tools could improve their customer service, specially when is about shipping on time!!!. I own a Laguna 14” SUV Bandsaw and is amazing!.

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#15 posted 01-31-2010 07:54 AM

I believe that the grizzly is the saw to go with.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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