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dhar

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01-08-2016 07:22 PM

Hi All,

New to the forum and somewhat new to woodworking.

I’ve been scavenging CL for quality tools and came accross a used Delta DJ-20 Jointer.

The owner is asking $1,000 for it, and has offered to include a moving dolly (w/ locking wheels) at the asking price.

Wanted to get input from fellow forum members to see if the asking price is reasonable. These don’t come up often, but I missed two other DJ-20s last year, one being sold by a NASA engineer for $800, and another sold by a woodshop for $750.

Now, I don’t know if the others two sold DJ-20s happen to be “scores”/”super deals”, but I’m just trying to get an idea for what a fair price would be for a used Delta DJ-20.

My understanding is that Grizzly makes a near clone that one could purchase brand new for about a $1,000.

Any thoughts/input would be much apprecaite it :-)

D


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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 01-08-2016 08:44 PM

I found a DJ-20 in the $1200 range, and reminded the seller about the new Grizzly. I think I paid $575, but it is a good tool and probably worth much more. In the end I didn’t have to pay shipping, or mess with assembly / degreasing.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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JAAune

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#2 posted 01-08-2016 08:59 PM

I got mine for $550 ten years ago but had to camp out at an auction all day to do so. It’s a good machine and since it’s fairly common, you can buy aftermarket Byrd heads if desired (stock knives work just fine). With shipping and tax, you’re looking at $1,500 or more for a new Grizzly and the Delta is probably a better tool. Grizzly is okay and I use some of their tools but they all have finicky little issues that the older American machines don’t have. I’d take a DJ-20 over a Grizzly any day – especially if it saved $500.

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dhar

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#3 posted 01-08-2016 09:10 PM

Pintodeluxe,

I wish my seller was that understanding. If I told him to I can get a new Grizzly for that price, then he will simply tell me to go get a new Grizzly.

He is pretty firm on his price. Again, I had/have no intentions of substantially low balling the seller – I’m happy to pay what is fair.

It’s just that with two local sales in the $750-$800 range, and now seeing the post above for two addtional sales in the $550 – $575 range, it just makes me think that, at $1,000, it is substantially over priced.

Out of respect, don’t want to haggle the seller too much, but I hope he would come down in price a bit.

The only reason why I have not walked away is because there are not may used 8” jointers that show up for sale in my neck of woods.

D

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MrUnix

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#4 posted 01-08-2016 09:16 PM

The only reason why I have not walked away is because there are not may used 8” jointers that show up for sale in my neck of woods.
- dhar

What is “your neck of the woods”? I hear this comment all the time, only to find out that the person making it usually is in a really good location for used equipment and just doesn’t do their due diligence. The good deals rarely last very long, so you need to be ready to jump when they do come along so you can be first in line to get to it. For every deal that you may stumble on, there could have been dozens that came and went without you even noticing.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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JAAune

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#5 posted 01-08-2016 09:18 PM

Well mine was a steal at $550 and if you want a steal, you’ll have to wait for years. I’ve never seen another jointer of similar quality going for the same price. I was just fortunate that there weren’t many bidders interested in the machine at the time and it sounded terrible when turned on due to a loose pulley rubbing the cabinet. I just installed a new key and set screw and fixed that right up.

Most of my tools are obtained at dirt cheap prices because I don’t always wait until I need a tool to make a purchase. Usually I anticipate what I need then keep an eye out for bargains. That’s why I’ve got an idle $1,500 Altendorf slider in the shop and won’t be able to use it until 3-phase is installed later this year.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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Fred Hargis

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#6 posted 01-08-2016 09:31 PM

Here’s the thing: if you want it and are willing to pay the price, then it’s worth it….doesn’t much matter what anyone else thinks. If he’s priced above your market, it will be there in 2 weeks and he may come down; if not he’ll sell it and you can wait for the next one. Yes, I think $1000 is very high for a DJ 20, but if I wanted that jointer, I would pay it. Life is too short to fret over it.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Ger21

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#7 posted 01-08-2016 11:30 PM

A DJ-20 was between $1500-$1700 when new 15 or so years ago.

In very good condition, $1000 isn’t bad, but I’d try to get it for around $800.

-- Gerry, http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/index.html http://www.jointcam.com

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TheGreatJon

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#8 posted 01-08-2016 11:46 PM

The dj20 is supposed to be a great jointer, but I’d be hesitant to pay anywhere near a grand for a used 8” jointer. I’ve never watched craigslist for them but I’ve seen a number at auctions and I’ve never seen one go for more than $600, while the cheapest I’ve seen was just under $300, I think.

Is there a reason you like the dj20 specifically? There are a lot of great jointers out there and some great deals to be found.

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Fireball

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#9 posted 01-09-2016 04:30 AM

It’s a better deal than this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-8-Jointer-Model-DJ-20-1-Phase-/331429838953?hash=item4d2ac20069:g:SvEAAOSw7ThUoYej

And this one: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/tls/5325314042.html

I have a DJ20 and really like it. If the saw you’re looking at is in good shape I wouldn’t be afraid to pay a grand for it. What other jointer are you going to buy for that amount and be happier with?

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dhar

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#10 posted 01-10-2016 05:47 PM

Brad,

I’m just outside of DC. I’ve actually setup alters on my local CL for anytime a “jointer” or a “joiner” is listed. I don’t have an immediate need for the tool, so I have been patient with my search. That being said, I’ve been looking for at least eights months. But you are probably right, many may have come and gone without me knowing.

TheGreatJon – I’m not married to a DJ-20. I’m just on the market for a good used 8” jointer. This will be my first jointer. I’ve read through multiple forums seeking advice on which jointer to buy, I noticed that most people recommend holding off (if that is an option) for a good 8” jointer (as oppose to a 6” jointer). The DJ-20 seeing to have positive reviews. As mentioned above, since I don’t have an immediate need, I don’t mind waiting (and saving up for one).

Fred – I agree with you as well. Life is too short to fret over it. However, I am in need of other tools as well and would like to limit my purchase price to whatever is market. Not even looking to “score” – just simply paying a fair market price.

Thanks,
D

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teejk02

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#11 posted 01-10-2016 06:13 PM



The only reason why I have not walked away is because there are not may used 8” jointers that show up for sale in my neck of woods.
- dhar

What is “your neck of the woods”? I hear this comment all the time, only to find out that the person making it usually is in a really good location for used equipment and just doesn t do their due diligence. The good deals rarely last very long, so you need to be ready to jump when they do come along so you can be first in line to get to it. For every deal that you may stumble on, there could have been dozens that came and went without you even noticing.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

In “my neck of the woods”, we have a lot of Amish woodworkers always on the lookout for used equipment and willing to pay more than a fair price…dunno how they find them but they do. Bargains are indeed hard to come by.

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OggieOglethorpe

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#12 posted 01-10-2016 06:30 PM

Just a thought on the “neck of the woods”...

People all over the Interwebs, and before that, Usenet, will tell you how you should be able to get a killer, awesomely clean, American cabinet saw for $400, or some other absolute steal on some other machine, and you’re not looking hard enough if you can’t find the same. I’m sure they can tell you what Powerball numbers you should have played last night, too…

My neck of the woods is Southern New England, right between NYC and Boston, and I’ve been buying woodworking machines for over 20 years, and I have never seen one of those unicorn machines. I’d still be waiting for some of them, and have never been able to use it. ;^) I’ll bet the DC burbs are similar, as both of our areas haven’t been manufacturing centers for a lot longer than some other locales.

A personal story: Four years ago, I sold the General 3HP 650 I purchased new in 2000, as I purchased a SawStop ICS. The 650, bought new for ~ $1700, sold for $1700… In thirty minutes to the first response I got on Craigslist. It was out of the shop hours later.

I had similar experiences selling a 5 year old Jet contractor saw back in 2000, as well as with a 10’ enclosed cargo trailer, my 6” Rigid jointer, a small band saw, a Jet dust collector, and my benchtop Delta drill press. It’s not unusual to see good condition, single phase, PM66’s or Unisaws going for $1200, to even $1500+, and they sell quickly. There’s even a cabinet shop that refurbs older machines found further away, and they fly off his Craigslist ads. All of the cheap stuff I’ve seen in all that time is either thrashed, rusty, missing parts, 3ph, or all of the above… By personal choice, I want to work wood, not rebuild machines.

All that said, I personally have a DJ-20, and in my area would be comfortable paying $750-800 for a nice used example, but would really have to think about what else I had seen come and go. Extra sets of sharp knives, delivery and setup, a mobile base, knife setting jigs, dust hoods, etc… may sweeten the deal a bit. Even here, if he’s stuck on $1000, I’d probably leave my number and $800 offer and walk away.

I really like the DJ-20’s accuracy, super easy maintenance adjustability, and the speed and ease that the lever allows me to change depth of cut up and down. I’ve had mine for ~ 12-13 years and would buy it again in a heartbeat. There’s not much to go wrong with a jointer, if you can get good results from a face and edge jointing test run, it’ll probably outlast you.

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RogerM

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#13 posted 01-10-2016 07:32 PM

I paid $1300 for my DJ 20 a little over ten years ago. I still wouldn’t trade it for anything.

-- Roger M, Aiken, SC

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lumberjuniorvarsity

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#14 posted 01-10-2016 08:19 PM

I appreciated Oggie’s viewpoint, which doesn’t seem to fit a lot of what I read here regarding pricing, or what I see in “my neck of the woods”.

I’m in Colorado Springs, so I can see stuff local and in Denver. Right now there are 3 DJ-20s on CL.

This one for $1000 (post 3 days old)
https://cosprings.craigslist.org/tls/5393116774.html

This one for $1200 (on since Nov 27th)
https://denver.craigslist.org/tls/5322045031.html

And this newcomer at $1395
https://denver.craigslist.org/tls/5395961472.html

I’ve seen a couple at $800 in the past couple months, but they went quickly.

Just another data point.

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Alan72

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#15 posted 01-10-2016 08:37 PM

When ever I sell my tools to upgrade to a new one I figure 50-60% of what I paid for it. People now adays want you to pay full price for a used tool, it makes me laugh looking on CL and seeing used machines for brand new prices. I would look at the Grizzly it’s not much more and you have a brand new machine and you know it’s not been abused. $800.00 would be the most I would pay for it.

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