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edwood1975

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01-03-2016 02:30 PM

I need to know how to build a cabinet base as I am in the need of some in the workshop … I just bought a dado stack and would figure this project would be a good way to cut my teeth on using the dado stack..

I want to build 2 double door base cabinets with frame and panel doors I will be using 3/4” finished plywood..

If anyone has a good stop by step guide it would be appreciated

Happy new year LJ’s

-- Ed


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#1 posted 01-03-2016 03:16 PM

Ed,
Let me ask a few questions first. Do you care if the plywood edges show? What are you using for the door panels, a thinner plywood like 1/4”? Is this a wall cabinet or more like an island? How wide are your doors? Are you considering using a face frame on the front?

That should serve as a start.

-- Greg, No. Cal. - "Gaudete in Domino Semper"

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#2 posted 01-03-2016 03:52 PM



Ed,
Let me ask a few questions first. Do you care if the plywood edges show? What are you using for the door panels, a thinner plywood like 1/4”? Is this a wall cabinet or more like an island? How wide are your doors? Are you considering using a face frame on the front?

That should serve as a start.

- greg48

Yes.. But I might use iron on edging
Probable frame and panel doors .. Frame 3/4” thick 1/4” panel
It’s a base cabinet (x2)that I will be using as a mitre saw station
No face frame, I think the doors will be 18” wide give or take

-- Ed

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#3 posted 01-03-2016 03:57 PM

No dado’s needed for a base cab. TS and biscuit joiner should do it.

Base cabinets are just 5 sided boxes. Cut top/bot/back 19-1/2” wide. Cut top/bot 23-1/4 deep, sides are 22-1/2 deep x 30-1/2 high, back is also 30-1/2.

Biscuit 5”-6” in from ends and spread glue for 100% coverage.

M

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#4 posted 01-03-2016 03:59 PM



No dado s needed for a base cab. Ts and biscuit joiner should do it.
Base cabinets are just 5 sided boxes. Cut top/bot/back 19-1/2” wide. Cut top/bot 23-1/4 deep, sides are 22-1/2 deep x 30-1/2 high, back is also 30-1/2. Biscuit 5”-6” in from ends a spread glue for 100% coverage.

M

- MadMark


don’t own a biscuit joiner and don’t feel the need to own As of now ..

-- Ed

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#5 posted 01-03-2016 04:09 PM

You asked how its done. I have a cheap $50 buiscuiter that will be replaced after this job. You can screw this together with 1-1/2” #8 wood screws. Pilot all screw holes. Have fun during glue up.

M

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#6 posted 01-03-2016 04:41 PM



You asked how its done. I have a cheap $50 buiscuiter that will be replaced after this job. You can screw this together with 1-1/2” #8 wood screws. Pilot all screw holes. Have fun during glue up.

M

I’m sorry if I came off unappreciated of your advise but I really want to place rabitts and using pocket holes for the stretchers .. Your advise is much appreciated I just bought some tools and need to gain experience using them if and when I get a biscuit joiner I’ll be looking for projects for using that tool
- MadMark


-- Ed

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#7 posted 01-03-2016 07:59 PM

Lots of ways to build a cabinet. Here is one, using rabbet joints. You can cut the rabbets on the table saw with a dado blade, but I get better results with a router. See what works for you.

To fasten, you can glue and nail. Plenty strong.

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#8 posted 01-03-2016 08:07 PM

I would go to a bookstore or magazine shop and pick something from Fine Woodworking up. Or look at the millions of youtube videos. Or use google. There are so many ways to build a cabinet based on how strong it needs to be and the tools that you have at your disposal that only you can decide how to build it. You should just start surfing.

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#9 posted 01-03-2016 08:27 PM

Ed,
I applaud your desires and efforts to learn new joinery techniques to fit your new tool purchases. Here are a few elementary joints you may wish to explore:

First is the rabbet joint as shown on gerryminor’s response and shown here

If your feeling adventurous, you may wish to try the tongue and groove

Both joints are easy to accomplish on your TS and aid you in the assembly of the panels.

For the panel door, you may wish to try a simple half lap; plenty of glue surface and fairly strong.

The door panel (1/4” ply) can simply be inserted into a rabbet on the backside of the door frame, or you may wish to center a 1/4” dado in the rails and stiles of the door, but remember to STOP the dado before it reaches the end of the rail/stile or it will show up as a hole on the outside of the door frames. If you do a centered dadoed for the panel, it is done easier with your router/table. If you do a centered dado on the doors, be mindful that 1/4” plywood is not necessarily 1/4” thick, so watch your bit size.

Finally, be sure to account for a toe kick area on the cabinet base. Check your kitchen cabinets for dimensions.

That’s all I got for you, looking forward to your finished project.

-- Greg, No. Cal. - "Gaudete in Domino Semper"

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#10 posted 01-03-2016 08:30 PM

P.S. Cut your dadoes first, it’s easier to size the tongues for a good fit than it is to fit the groove.

-- Greg, No. Cal. - "Gaudete in Domino Semper"

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#11 posted 01-03-2016 10:37 PM

Look at the pic posted by jerryminer. Only exception is no need for a full top you can put a top rail about 2” wide.
You’ll need it whether you’re doing drawer bank or drawer over doors.

Note: I’ve built a bunch of cabs and I can tell you there is no need for dados, rabbets or grooves. Biscuits are not necessary, nor are pocket screws. You may want a rabbet for the back panel.

Top and bottom fit between sides. Screw sides into top/bottom simple butt joints work fine. Use glue if you want.
If screws are exposed on an end panel a sijmple plug works fine (they are shop cabs).

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#12 posted 01-03-2016 10:37 PM

Remember to put the iron on edging before you screw it together!

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#13 posted 01-03-2016 11:12 PM

You can make it easy or difficult. You Tube is loaded with videos. Some are pretty good, others…UGH!
In your case, I would suggest one of two choices:
1) Jay Bates has videos on how to build some base cabinets and he also has the Sketchup videos of how he designed them
2) I follow the basic workflow of Kris Reynolds Custom Cabinet builder. I have built over 50 cabinets and a few other projects following his workflow. Easy for me. Mostly table saw, and router, and pocket hole jig.

Our Kitchen Remodel http://lumberjocks.com/projects/108347
Good luck.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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