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Forum topic by ChuckV posted 01-20-2010 02:25 AM 932 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ChuckV

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01-20-2010 02:25 AM

Topic tags/keywords: gluing

In the next few days, I plan to glue up some panels to be used as shelves. My shop is not heated, and the high temperatures are predicted to be around 35F.

I have managed to glue some other parts of this project inside the house, but I would really like to be able to clamp these pieces up on my workbench. My lovely wife puts up with a lot, but she draws the line somewhere before bringing the bench inside :-).

I am wondering if anyone knows if this plan would work. I am using Titebond III:
(1) Have wood pieces and glue at room temperature in the house.
(2) Bring materials for one shelf out to the shop, glue and clamp. I would have everything ready so that this goes as quickly as possible.
(3) After 30 minutes, remove the clamps and carefully move the piece back into the house.

Are those first 30 minutes so crucial that spending it in the cold will cause me trouble?

Thanks.

-- “While the world with closed eyes sleeps, The sky knows and weeps - steel rain. ” ― Nathan Bell


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PaulfromVictor

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#1 posted 01-20-2010 02:43 AM

Hi Chuck.

I am in upstate NY, so like you I also have the challenges that come with cold weather. I have a basement shop, but do my sanding and finishing in the garage.

The choice is to wait for warm weather, chance the curing in the cold, or move into the house. Titebond does not give off any VOC’s, so I would do your glue up in the house. I do not know what the working temperature of Titebond is, but I am sure you can find it on thier website. In any event, 30 minutes to cure in a cold garage is a formula for failure.

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Ger21

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#2 posted 01-20-2010 02:44 AM

The latest FWW says Titebond III is good to 47°. Seems to me it’ll get cold pretty fast.

-- Gerry, http://g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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seriousturtle

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#3 posted 01-20-2010 02:49 AM

i’ve lost a few pieces in 40+ weather with TBII. beware.

-- ~the turtle

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PurpLev

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#4 posted 01-20-2010 05:36 AM

what about setting up a glueup corner/area in the shop where you can place a heater to keep the glueup at above minimum temp. for TBIII?

I actually did the same thing you are planning to do this weekend, although with TBI, and I noticed the lamination forming the dreaded white patches of the frozen glue. in my case it’s shop furniture (my router table) so not a biggy, but for something of higher quality – I would not risk it.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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KevinVan

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#5 posted 01-20-2010 05:48 AM

I’m not chancing it….I’ve been doing my glue ups on the kitchen table.

-- ALS IK KAN “to the best of my ability,”

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ChuckV

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#6 posted 01-22-2010 09:28 PM

Thank you for the suggestions. I ended up taking the careful route and gluing in the house. I put some pieces of MDF underneath to help with support and to give some space for the clamps on the bottom.

-- “While the world with closed eyes sleeps, The sky knows and weeps - steel rain. ” ― Nathan Bell

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#7 posted 01-22-2010 09:33 PM

looks like you did good, thats a nice glueup

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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