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Joshkrue

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12-31-2015 07:26 PM

I am fairly new to woodworking and I currently have a cheap Ryobi saw, and think I need to upgrade it. I want to make some basic furniture projects.

I have been looking at the DeWalt DWE7491RS and the Ridgid R4512 that are about the same price. I am wondering which one would be the better solution for me. Portability would be nice, but I am looking for something that will perform the best, ideally looking for something that takes a dado blade and has a wide rip capacity.

I would appreciate any input on these saws or recommendations for other saws.


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#1 posted 12-31-2015 07:39 PM

Run away screaming from that R4512 (do a search for the problems associated with them). If you are looking at new, your choices are rather limited in that price range – Scott and many others will be along shortly to give you a run down on them. If you look at used, you can get a lot of machine well within your budget. Even the ever present C-man contractor saw would be a huge step up from your Ryobi and can be had for around $100 most any day of the week. At the upper end of your budget, it’s entirely possible to find a nice used hybrid or cabinet saw.

Cheers,
Brad

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#2 posted 12-31-2015 07:44 PM

I purchased a Jet Contractors saw – with the motor hung off the back – belt driven and similar to a Delta or Powermatic Contractors saw for $350 on Craigslist. The top had some surface rust on the cast iron table, decent fence, plenty of power, takes a dado set, etc. Way better than the DeWalt or the Ridgid. Great saw at a fair price. New I think that saw was around $700. But, an elderly gentleman owned it and in the last few years he neglected it a little bit. His son was selling it for him. I put it on casters and lock it down then move it when I need to. I’ll see if I can find a photo to post up.

Marty

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#3 posted 12-31-2015 08:13 PM

Since portability isn’t a necessity, I’d lean heavily toward the benefits of a full size stationary saw….otherwise you’ll still be dealing with many of the drawbacks of your Ryobi. As mentioned, the R4512 and nearly identical Craftsman 22183 have had their fair share of alignment issues. The Delta 36-725 is a better choice IMO….better fence, better track record. A coupon or sale price could put it in your price range.

A good used saw is always a viable option of the right deal comes along.

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#4 posted 01-01-2016 02:41 AM

You guys just keep getting suckered by these new accounts asking the same TS question. Tomorrow they’ll get you again.

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#5 posted 01-01-2016 02:53 AM



You guys just keep getting suckered by these new accounts asking the same TS question. Tomorrow they ll get you again.

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Why does that matter to you? You don’t have to respond to them.

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#6 posted 01-01-2016 03:21 AM

Rick, curious as to why you have a problem with a post like that? Many people, like myself, find a new hobby or are beginners are something .. in today’s age .. the best way to learn about something is to hop online, find a website community such as this, and start talking to people that know what they are talking about. I’ve become quite successful in life having no college degree—using self teaching methods and the interweb.

Online communities are a godsend and one of the best sources to becoming knowledgable in any subject matter. It’s unfortunate however, that all of these communities still have a few rotten apples in the mix like yourself.

Thanks for the help on this topic. I wonder how many of your 6k posts are actually beneficial to helping people or talking about something constructive?

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#7 posted 01-01-2016 03:39 AM



You guys just keep getting suckered by these new accounts asking the same TS question. Tomorrow they ll get you again.

- Rick M.

As long as they participate in their thread I don’t mind. It’s the hit and runs that are disappointing.

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#8 posted 01-01-2016 03:49 AM

Well, I’m looking for the same info as the original poster. I’m building my first rough/rustic furniture shop. I have a few expensive items to purchase. I would love your opinion on a table saw.

I’ve read more than an hour of reviews on the Rigid, Masterforce, Delta and Grizzly models. These are all in the $450-750 range.

I walked through menards today and saw they’re table saw on sale for $375. All the reviews I’ve read say spend a few more and get the Delta or Grizzly, however the original posters were mentioning the Masterforce costing $450.

Does the $375 price drop warrant buying the saw for a beginning builder? I think most cuts will require more precision than brute force .. and I think the cross cut miter will be the go-to saw? But for ripping and other cuts, I want to get away from using a circular saw and get into an entry level table saw with a decent size top on it.

Thoughts on what I can buy for $400-500?

Thanks

http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/power-tools-accessories/power-saws-accessories/masterforce-reg-10-in-contractor-table-saw-with-mobile-base/p-1444436497745-c-9082.htm?tid=-8918623762041658135

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#9 posted 01-01-2016 03:49 AM

I would look for a nice used saw

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#10 posted 01-01-2016 04:00 AM

I appreciate the advice so far. I considered used but I don’t consider myself skilled enough to identify a gem from a lemon. I looked at craigslist and didn’t really see anything really catching my eye anyway.

I actually looked into the Delta 36-725, and it looks promising. Anyone have specific experience with that saw?

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#11 posted 01-01-2016 04:05 AM

I’ve also found nothing but some really beat up looking stuff on craigslist. I’ve seen a lot of recommendations on the Delta you’re talking about. Currently $600 at Lowes .. what does that saw give you than Menards Masterforce doesn’t for $375?

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#12 posted 01-01-2016 04:28 AM

Today it’s a tablesaw question, tomorrow someone will ask how to flatin a warped twisted cupped cracked board Thats been sitting for six months.Without losing any thickness.
That’s the way it goes and will never change.
Woodworking takes patience in and out of the shop.
Happy new year!

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MinnesotaMarty

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#13 posted 01-01-2016 04:30 AM

Justkit,
The Delta gives you a company with years of experience making table saws. Still made overseas but to Delta specs.
Masterforce tools are ok from what i can tell. Menards exclusive. At $375 and it stays put in the garage, probably ok. If it don’t work out you probably could sell it $300.
Marty

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justjkit

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#14 posted 01-01-2016 05:31 AM

Thanks Marty!

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#15 posted 01-01-2016 05:56 AM

Joshkrue, lemons are yellow!

Stick with the top brands, new or used.
On the used one look for how well it has been kept up, arbor slop, preferably a belt drive, and wear points that are obvious.
Find a saw where the distance from front of the blade to the front edge of the table, the more the better.

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