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Forum topic by jonlan posted 12-27-2015 07:13 PM 767 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jonlan

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12-27-2015 07:13 PM

Hi all. My wife and I are looking to start finishing the basement here shortly and she’s asked that I ‘sort out’ what I want as far as the bar goes. I’ve got most of the design taped out, but Ive been having a hard time picking how to finish it. Then I found this picture…

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1e/47/09/1e47094acaedac60f9279dfd24a7934e.jpg

And fell in love with the dark ebony finish and lighter top. My bar wont be that big (I wish it was) but I’d like to try and mimic the finish as close as I can. I’ve never ebonized wood, but from what I can tell there are multiple ways to do it from dyes to inidia ink. I found this post that seemed pretty straight forward…

http://www.woodworkerssource.com/blog/tips-tricks/ebonizing-ash-the-fast-and-easy-way-for-woodworking-projects/

If Im building the bar exterior from oak, does this seem like a good method? Or are there other ways to achieve this?

Second question – What are your guys thoughts on the top. Being relatively new to wood working, I cant quite figure what the top is made of it. It looks like it’s pieced together sort of like a large butcher block, but Im not sure how I would achieve that finish. Any ideas there?

As always – thanks for the input!


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shipwright

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#1 posted 12-27-2015 10:51 PM

Oak is high in tannin and will ebonize very well with ferrous ion solution (vinegar and steel wool).
You can see a video of the process in real time in this blog entry.
This is how it looked finished with Saicos Hardwax Oil.

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#2 posted 12-28-2015 02:05 AM

I finished my bar with epoxy, by flooding it and it gives the look that your picture shows. I laminated Padauk, a vibrant red-orange wood over a hardwood plywood and spread a gallon of clear epoxy in two coats over it.

-- PJ

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#3 posted 12-28-2015 03:56 AM



I finished my bar with epoxy, by flooding it and it gives the look that your picture shows. I laminated Padauk, a vibrant red-orange wood over a hardwood plywood and spread a gallon of clear epoxy in two coats over it.

- ThomasChippendale

He’s not talking about the bar top it self. He’s talking about the whole bar in general. Ebony meaning black for the cabinets. See the picture he linked to. That the way I see it anyway. Somewhat different that what you did.

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#4 posted 12-28-2015 03:59 AM

I was referring to the finish for the top.

Second question – What are your guys thoughts on the top. Being relatively new to wood working, I cant quite figure what the top is made of it. It looks like it s pieced together sort of like a large butcher block, but Im not sure how I would achieve that finish. Any ideas there?

As always – thanks for the input!

- jonlan


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#5 posted 12-28-2015 04:10 AM

I finished my bar with epoxy, by flooding it and it gives the look that your picture shows. I laminated Padauk, a vibrant red-orange wood over a hardwood plywood and spread a gallon of clear epoxy in two coats over it.

- ThomasChippendale
He s not talking about the bar top it self. He s talking about the whole bar in general. Ebony meaning black for the cabinets. See the picture he linked to. That the way I see it anyway. Somewhat different that what you did.

- AlaskaGuy

From the OP original post!
Second question – What are your guys thoughts on the top. Being relatively new to wood working, I cant quite figure what the top is made of it. It looks like it’s pieced together sort of like a large butcher block, but Im not sure how I would achieve that finish. Any ideas there?”

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#6 posted 12-28-2015 12:12 PM

I built a “black” bar using red oak and black aniline dye. Oak is very easy to “ebonize”.

-- Gerry, http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/index.html http://www.jointcam.com

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ThomasChippendale

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#7 posted 12-28-2015 02:23 PM

Back to the top;

The top seems to be made of laminated boards of say, 4 inch wide, i count 4 wide for a 16 inches wide top which gives a decent work surface. The top is also not full length boards, I would not be surprised if it is made of hardwood flooring material. I think that hardwood flooring can be an excellent woodworking material in this application, especially engineered hardwood flooring with a thick top layer of selected wood. Could be glued to a 3/4 inch birch plywood to create a strong and beautiful bar top at an affordable price and just about indestructible and straight from the onset. It must then be flooded in two passes with clear epoxy to fill in the beveled edges of the boards.

The birch plywood could extend to the front to support the large bar-rail molding. Mine was rabetted and screwed from the underside through the plywood.

-- PJ

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jonlan

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#8 posted 12-28-2015 02:44 PM



I built a “black” bar using red oak and black aniline dye. Oak is very easy to “ebonize”.

- Ger21

Mind sharing how you did it? Did it turn out as black as you had hoped?

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#9 posted 02-07-2016 01:54 AM

Looks like pored epoxy. It ain’t hard and it sure ain’t easy. Different for each. I spray to ebonize… This is on Birch.

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Ger21

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#10 posted 02-07-2016 05:46 PM


I built a “black” bar using red oak and black aniline dye. Oak is very easy to “ebonize”.

- Ger21

Mind sharing how you did it? Did it turn out as black as you had hoped?

- jonlan

Sorry for the late reply. I never saw the follow up.

All you need to do is get some water soluble black aniline dye, and apply liberally to your oak. When it dries, it will look more like a dark gray than black. But as soon as you apply your finish, it will instantly turn totally black. It’s really very simple. You should always make a sample to be sure you you get the finish you’re looking for. When mixing powdered dye, you need to make sure that your mix is strong enough.

-- Gerry, http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/index.html http://www.jointcam.com

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