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Forum topic by willie posted 12-24-2015 04:13 PM 1407 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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willie

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12-24-2015 04:13 PM

Stopped in the local Lowe’s the other day to pick up some sanding sealer. It seems like every other week they switch to another brand of finishes. I have found at least 3 brands of sealer in the last year. I usually use lacquer on most of my projects. The last two sealers were water-based and were not a problem with the lacquer. This week it looks like MinWax is the finish of the week. I picked up a quart of their sanding sealer and headed home. Good thing I read the label on the can. In small print at the bottom of the instructions it says: “Do not use under lacquer”. Took it back and asked if they had any sealer that was compatible with lacquer. They do not.

We recently got a new Menard’s store in the area. Went to check it out shortly after it opened. Besides being too big, way more walking than I needed, they really spread things out. I did find a gallon of Watco lacquer for about $25.00, I was paying $60.00 a gallon at Sherwin-Williams. Have to go back to check out what they have for sealer.

I definitely learned that it pays to read all of the info on the labels of all my finishes. Normally I would have just used the MinWax stuff without reading it and would have had to deal with that mess. I thought all sealers would work with lacquer. Glad I found this out without screwing up a lot of work!!!

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conifur

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#1 posted 12-24-2015 04:17 PM

Menards is my big box store of choice here in WI, better selection and prices HD sucks, and to me Lowes does not have much of a selection.
Read the fine print, it is so fine now a days you need to bring a magnifying glass with ya.LOL

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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OggieOglethorpe

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#2 posted 12-24-2015 04:22 PM

Got a good local paint store?

I have several… ;^)

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xeddog

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#3 posted 12-24-2015 07:10 PM

Read the fine print, it is so fine now a days you need to bring a magnifying glass with ya.LOL

- conifur

It’s also difficult to find the fine print (or any print for that matter) in English.

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#4 posted 12-24-2015 10:34 PM


Read the fine print, it is so fine now a days you need to bring a magnifying glass with ya.LOL

- conifur

It s also difficult to find the fine print (or any print for that matter) in English.

- xeddog


If this had a face book “like” That’s what I’d click.

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Wildwood

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#5 posted 12-25-2015 12:01 PM

If using lacquer as finial finish would just use thinned lacquer as sealer. Lacquer sanding sealer contain zinc stearate which help with light sanding but too many coats are soft so never use more than two coats of the stuff.

Many soft woods that suck up finish benefit from a coat sanding sealer use but thinned lacquer will do the same thing.

Found using thinned oil based (lacquer, poly, varnish) will seal as well as commercial products sold as sealers. I never thin water based or borne finishes.

-- Bill

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Tennessee

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#6 posted 12-25-2015 01:03 PM

I’ve been totally disappointed in the recent brand changes in Lowes. No more Deft, lousy stain choices, and a lot of the older finishes they used to carry are not there in any brand.
They also quit with larger sizes of epoxy, and the sandpaper selection is sparser. It’s like they are only concerned with the 2X4 house builder people.

I’ve been using my local Ace Hardware. They seem to have everything I need. Anything exotic, like walnut oil, I go online or to my Woodcraft, although the pricing is shocking.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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KellyB

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#7 posted 12-25-2015 02:03 PM

Big box stores have no brand loyalty to speak of. Cheapest wins. It is the epitome of “Caveat emptor”.

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#8 posted 12-25-2015 03:41 PM


I ve been using my local Ace Hardware. They seem to have everything I need. Anything exotic, like walnut oil, I go online or to my Woodcraft, although the pricing is shocking.

- Tennessee

I get the Walnut oil at the grocery store. The don’t sell much so it seams to run on sale frequently or gets close to the “expiration” date and price slashed. I use Ace a lot since one is about a mile from my house but I find them to be about the most expensive route as the same products are considerably more compared to Lowe’s, Menard’s, or HD. However as you mentioned they do carry some items not at the other stores. I just keep a list as it just ends up being a lot cheaper to order it all through Woodcraft, Amazon, etc…

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Kazooman

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#9 posted 12-25-2015 04:04 PM

I have a Lowe’s and a Menard’s within two miles from my place. I shop at both of them for different items. The electrical and plumbing sections at Menard’s are better. Wider selection and better quality components. If I need anything really high end or exotic I go to a local plumbing or electrical supply. Lowe’s has much better hand tools. Their Kobalt line is very good. Items such as screwdrivers, wrenches, etc. at Menard’s are usually poor quality. So, I shop them both and occasionally head over to the Home Depot, but that is about eight miles away.

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bbrown

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#10 posted 12-25-2015 08:43 PM

I believe that Zinsser shellac (“Sealcoat”) is a universal sealer and should be compatible with any topcoat.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but that has been my understanding.

-- Forest, Virginia ; Micah 6:8

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#11 posted 12-26-2015 06:31 AM

Sanding sealer IMO is a needless step for most projects. A regular light coat of lacquer, allowed to cure then lightly sanded back (320_ 400) effectively ‘seals’ the grain. It is always compatible. I almost never sand back the first coat though. Normally three LIGHT coats of lacquer, a full cure (over night) then a light sanding with 400 grit. Wipe it down with micro fiber. Then shoot a final coat. Let this last coat again cure. Finally rub it down with 0000 steel wool and the paste wax of your choice (Johnson’s).
Try it you will like it.

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#12 posted 12-26-2015 07:01 AM

1+ for local paint store.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#13 posted 12-26-2015 03:24 PM

If I recall, Tennessee and I live in the same town. Our local Ace Hardware is tops! I use Two Ton epoxy for building fishing rods and use it for the grips- about 30 minute set time. Five minutes is not enough. I only needed two but they ordered six and put the extras on the peg hook for later.
I used to work at our Lowe’s and noticed a lot of new brands are on the shelves. I guess they go with whatever is cheaper and offers the best profit margin.

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TravisH

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#14 posted 12-26-2015 07:15 PM



If I recall, Tennessee and I live in the same town. Our local Ace Hardware is tops! I use Two Ton epoxy for building fishing rods and use it for the grips- about 30 minute set time. Five minutes is not enough. I only needed two but they ordered six and put the extras on the peg hook for later.
I used to work at our Lowe s and noticed a lot of new brands are on the shelves. I guess they go with whatever is cheaper and offers the best profit margin.

- Knothead62

Can always count on Ace to have the Devcon. I use it on most of my cranks still.

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Alan72

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#15 posted 12-27-2015 12:28 AM

I LOVE Menards, they have almost everything you could ask for, better plywood, Jorgensen cabinet master clamps (they go on sale 2-3 year). Also there a section when the plywood or other sheet goods get damaged thay have them 1/2 off the price. My wife likes them also because they sell Blow Molds for the holiday seasons.

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