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ClammyBallz

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12-23-2015 09:46 PM

I was just perusing through some youtube woodworking videos and it really amazes me how many amateurs lack any type of shop safety. I’m not perfect by any means, but this is some blatantly stupid stuff.

1. The guy is cutting a board on his table saw and feeding it with a grrriper, but then reaches across the saw to pull the board while he’s pushing it across the table.

2. This guy pushes a 3” wide board on its face over the jointer without any push blocks.

3. Same guy is wearing a saggy flannel with thread dangling from the sleeve. I though for sure it would get wrapped around the jointer blades.

I guess I was fortunate to have a wood shop teacher that instilled safety into our head. If you were caught doing something dumb, he’d hit the red button and shut down all the machines in the shop, then make you sit that session out.


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 12-23-2015 09:58 PM

”it really amazes me how many amateurs lack any type of shop safety”
It’s not just amateurs. Not by a long shot.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Texcaster

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#2 posted 12-23-2015 10:33 PM


”it really amazes me how many amateurs lack any type of shop safety”
It s not just amateurs. Not by a long shot.

- AlaskaGuy

The one thing everyone that has been badly injured will tell you is ”... it happened so fast!” . In my case I was doing the wrong thing and I knew it. That happened in the early 80’s and smartened me right up! All my fingers work and I have a small skin graft on the tip of my left hand index finger.

-- Mama calls me Texcaster but my real name is Mr. Earl.

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conifur

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#3 posted 12-23-2015 11:31 PM

I worked for a large electric utility in WI, it was very safety conscience, I remember a seminar I was at by an out side consulting/safety organization. I remember one statement they dwelled on, basically this was the jest of it with some direct quotes. ”’Short of a plane falling out of the sky and hitting you, there are no such thing as an accident, it is a momentary loss of concentration of the subject at hand and/or totally breaking they rules of safety for what you are doing”. With that said, yes some dont know the rules,” you cant know what you dont know” . They just had no one teach them or learned themselves, ex reading. Heck I had a guy who worked for me that was a shop teacher, he was missing the middle finger one his left hand at the last joint, about an inch. Ya wont to know how he lost it??
Drum roll!!!!!!!!!! He was instructing the class on how to change a table saw blade!!!! I said Bill, when I was in shop class, and any blade/bit change first you turned off the breaker to the machine, and locked it out. I then said, even if that was not done, who turned it on to loose your finger
? He never answer that. But he must of showed the class “what not to do”’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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jbay

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#4 posted 12-23-2015 11:44 PM

Like this?

-- My “MO” involves Judging others, playing God, acting as LJs law enforcement, and never admitting any of my ideas could possibly be wrong or anyone else's idea could possibly be correct -- (A1Jim)

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TheFridge

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#5 posted 12-24-2015 03:26 AM

Guilty as charged.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#6 posted 12-24-2015 03:58 AM

Splayed hand does many finger take.

Woodworkers secret handshake : raise hands over head & wiggle fingers & repeat: I’m a woodworker & I have all ten!

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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TarHeelz

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#7 posted 12-24-2015 04:14 AM

Often I find myself wondering what I don’t know. There are plenty “Don’t do this.” videos and sure there are “Be sure to be safe. Use a push block!” instructions but clearly there is plenty more fundamental stuff that would be taught in a formal class that many of us who are self-taught never would have learned – but through (sometimes painful) experience.

-- Tar Heelz, Durham, NC USA

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MadMark

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#8 posted 12-24-2015 04:28 AM

Had a guy at a saw 101 class who only had 8-1/2! First day with his new saw. The splayed hand on a rip got him. I keep ym thumb tucked back under the palm and the pinky hooked over the top of the fence. If the forefinger passes, the rest of the hand is safe.

Paint a red line extending the blade to the front of the saw an put up a sign that anything on the line gets cut off.

NEVER move your eye off the leading edge of the blade while cutting. Ignore everything including gunfire. The blade captures 110% of your attention.

Plan your cuts, know if you need to regrip and when/how.

Install a Zero Clearance Insert and riving knife.

Listen to that little alarm bell in your head. When it goes off, STOP & take a break until you find the issue.

Hope this helps.

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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#9 posted 12-24-2015 04:28 AM

I’m also guilty of the safety squint.I don’t like hunting down my glasses for a quick cut.

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#10 posted 12-24-2015 01:16 PM

Just remember, If it seems unsafe…it probably is! Don’t do it. Your subconscious “gut instinct” should be trusted and obeyed when your brain screams at you:” STOP! YOU DUMBASS. As I get older, my gut instinct works overtime. Like clamps, you can never have enough push sticks, push blocks and other safety devices. Make certain that you are comfortable using them. If you don’t like the way they work, you won’t use them. Distracted machine operations are very bad for your health. If you don’t feel right physically or mentally on a given day in the shop, put out the lights and go do something else as you will not be safe without full concentration. Finally, don’t let people, pets etc. surprise you in your work. Work out a signal of some sort before your wife friends or kids come in if they hear a machine running. And as much as we love having them around, keep your shop dog from under your feet. Hope everyone has a safe holiday season. May you be healthy and happy celebrating the season in whatever way you choose!

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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#11 posted 12-24-2015 05:53 PM

You mean something stupid like this?!!!

Yep, I cut tons of wood on my TS that day using a Grrrripper for safety. Needed to move the last piece of wood from between the blade and fence and too lazy to walk a few feet and get a stick or to turn the saw off. I ain’t gonna do that again!

-- Todd, Huntsville, AL

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#12 posted 12-24-2015 06:40 PM

I was in a hurry.

I cut my left index finger on a band saw (I’m left handed). Pretty much split the tip of it right down to the first joint. I was rushing because I only had 15 minutes before I had to leave to go somewhere. Where was I going? Of course I don’t recall but I sure do remember my finger gliding into that blade as I reached in to remove a piece of waste. I had turned the saw off but it takes a long time for that blade to spin down, but still, it cut that finger like it was butter.

I didn’t lose the finger or any part of it and it works pretty well. in this instance I feel I was very fortunate to come out as well as I did. for me, the biggest risk is if I get in a rush. Whenever that happens I just shut the machines down and go on to whatever it is that seems so important. I can always get back to the shop, woodworking is supposed to be relaxing for me, not stressful.

-- Dr C

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Mojo1

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#13 posted 12-26-2015 09:43 AM

I am guilty of such stupidity last Sunday, cost me about 25% of my left thumb.

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GT350

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#14 posted 12-26-2015 05:15 PM

One thing I haven’t seen yet is always use the guards provided for the equipment. Some people for instance don’t like using a tablesaw guard because they can’t see the cut. I set the cut up ahead of time so when I cut a piece of wood I know where the cut is going to be, I don’t need to watch it. Use push sticks, guide the piece properly, pay attention and keep in mind no matter how careful you are, accidents still happen. Wood can bind on a blade, kick back etc..
Mike

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MadMark

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#15 posted 12-26-2015 05:35 PM

“I don’t need to watch it”?! Are you out of your friggen MIND?!

When cutting your eye needs to be locked on the leading edge of the blade even if its buried. To not pay 110% of your attention is the path to disaster.

Guards lull people into a false sense of safety to the point that they say things like “I don’t need to watch it”.

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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