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BoomWood

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12-14-2015 05:30 PM

Im looking to upgrade my current router. It’s a Ryobi and it sucks.
I’m currently deciding between these two…any thoughts on which? Open to other suggestions in this price range.
DEWALT DWP611PK
DEWALT DW618PK

Also want a compatible benchtop router table. It must be benchtop since I have absolutely no more space in the shop. Ideally under $200.

I’d also really like this router to be able to accept guide bearings for pattern bits and a good edge guide.

Thanks for any help!


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#1 posted 12-14-2015 05:35 PM

I like the Bosch 1617 router. Only used that and the Porter Cable 690, but I like the Bosch better of the two.

And I would build a router table. Costs a lot less than $200. Even if you would buy a router plate from Rockler or somewhere. Wood magazine had plans for a benchtop model a few years ago.

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#2 posted 12-14-2015 05:43 PM



I like the Bosch 1617 router. Only used that and the Porter Cable 690, but I like the Bosch better of the two.

And I would build a router table. Costs a lot less than $200. Even if you would buy a router plate from Rockler or somewhere. Wood magazine had plans for a benchtop model a few years ago.

- jmartel

I have the 1617 and it’s a great router. On my router table I have a Triton TRA001 on my router table and it has handled everything I have thrown at it.

The good thing about the Bosch and the Triton is that they can be adjusted from above the table and no need for a lift.

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SawSucker

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#3 posted 12-14-2015 06:13 PM

Kreg PRS2100 Bench Top Router Table

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BoomWood

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#4 posted 12-14-2015 06:35 PM

The reason I’m looking at both Dewalts is that they come with the plunge and fixed bases. I’ve only had a fixed base until now and plunge would be really nice.

The Bosch 1617EVSPK looks great!

I tried building my own router table, didn’t go so well. I’d rather buy one and know everything is square with a good table top, fence, dust port etc.

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#5 posted 12-14-2015 07:20 PM

I have the 611 and a couple 618’s. The 611 is too small for general table routing. It would cut roundovers, but it would struggle with many joinery cuts. The 611 excells at handheld routing jobs. The 618 is a great all-around router, so you can’t go wrong with that. With a benchtop router table, above-the-table adjustments aren’t that important (because everything is easy to reach with an open router table).

I use a full sized bench dog table, but for benchtop router tables I think the Kreg looks best.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#6 posted 12-14-2015 08:03 PM

Most of the major brands offer a combo kit of a fixed and plunge base. Either base is fine for router table, but there’s really no need for the plunge base under the table. There’s really no “best”....it’s subjective, but Milwaukee, Bosch, PC, Hitachi, Makita, etc….all make good kits. Pick one you like. Variable speed is pretty much a must have feature for router table. 1/2” shank capability is wise also. More power is usually better than less power…I’d look for at least 10 amps. Above table features are useful too….the Triton routers have good above table features.

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BoomWood

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#7 posted 12-14-2015 10:01 PM

Great information, Thanks all!

Right now I’m down to the DEWALT DW618PK OR Bosch 1617EVSPK and the Bosch RA1181 router table.
The Kreg table looks nice, but I don’t see much of a difference between the two.

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#8 posted 12-14-2015 11:25 PM

Woodpecker Router Raiser with a Porter-Cable 3-1/4 HP Router Motor Model #75182

-- Roger M, Aiken, SC

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#9 posted 12-15-2015 12:05 AM

I have a PC 7518 and shop made router table.Shop made router tables cost less and are made to your design all of the store Router tables are too small ,I like a router table at least 4’ long
In the side extension of my table saw I have a 2hp Triton with built in lift, it works great and you don’t have to spend $350 on a router lift.

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#10 posted 12-15-2015 04:56 PM

I see you’ve narrowed your selections down a bit. I happen to have both the 618 and 1617 routers. If you ever plan to use it as a handheld router, without question get the 618. That is my go-to router for most all handheld operations. They will both work fine in a router table. Neither really has full topside adjustments like the Freud FT1700 or Triton routers. Those two have built-in router lifts and allow all controls and bit changing operations to be completed topside. Again, with a benchtop router table it doesn’t matter all that much.

I regard the Kreg table as a big improvement over the Bosch. The Kreg is a really solid unit. Either one is kind of a temporary solution though, and before long you will outgrow it. By the way I really like Bosch tools, I just don’t think the 1617 and the portable router table are the shining gems in their lineup.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#11 posted 12-15-2015 05:21 PM

I have the Bosch MRC23 kit. Great router with solid features.

I had every intention of building a table, but after calculating material, a good base plate, switch, t-track and other hardware and designing a good fence, I was not far off from the price of buying one. Aside from the plywood, nothing could be sourced local. I would have to order all online from various suppliers and be subject to multiple shipping fees. Found the Bosch RA1171 cabinet table on sale at Amazon with free shipping. The table has a nice plate with leveling adjusters, a good switch, and is solidly designed.

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a1Jim

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#12 posted 12-15-2015 05:50 PM

Daly
Sorry but I have to disagree with opting out on building your own router table. Looking at the RA1171 it’s a toy compared to one you could build,way to small table top for many projects,no storage,very light weight making it hard to keep in place with larger projects,plus you don’t gain the experience of building a great project.
As to cost that will depend on what kind of bells and whistles you incorporate into it,you can always start with the basics and upgrade later on once you have the basic top and cabinet made.

Here’s a nice basic one Doug built

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/82574

There are lots of designs you can get here on ljs

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/tag/router+table

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Knothead62

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#13 posted 12-15-2015 07:42 PM

I have a refurbished B&D router that I got at a tool outlet. Works for me. Woodcraft had a sale on their Kreg router tables a while back and got one for my wife. Yeh, right? I love it. Really sturdy and is easy to move as I don’t have a lot of floor space. I noticed in the Woodcraft magazine that they have one where the fence is two pieces, allowing for independent adjustment.

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BoomWood

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#14 posted 12-15-2015 07:47 PM

Thanks for all the replies!
I am not building a router table because my first attempt was a disaster. I am still new to woodworking and I really need a reliable router table that is perfectly square and has most of the bells and whistles. I don’t have a dado stack and I can’t seem to cut perfectly straight on my table saw (fence issues).
Down the road as I become more experienced I’m sure i’ll build a bigger better router table, but for now a small bench top will do.

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a1Jim

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#15 posted 12-15-2015 07:57 PM

If you lived close I would help you get one together. If you’re going to upgrade not to far down the road there are lots of low-cost router tables on Craigs list for $10-20 but they won’t have bells and whistles . Once you have a router you can use it to make the Dados a rabbits for cabinet work an won’t need a dado blade right away. Good luck on what ever set-up you choose ,enjoy woodworking.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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