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JRI25

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12-14-2015 01:25 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

New user here. Just about done with my home remodel. Then I will start doing some wood working. My current old 8,25” Makita will just not cut it for this purpose. I have searched for many decent table saws that won’t require an upgrade in the next year or two. So one that is being sold locally is a Rigid 4511 with a granite top. It’s still in the box but my guess is that it’s been the a while since it’s been a few years since production. The seller wants 350 and doesn’t want to budge.

My hard Christmas budget is 300. Is this saw worth the 350?


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#1 posted 12-14-2015 01:33 AM

$350. Never been used? Its probably worth $350…..especially if there aren’t many other options in your region. If I remember correctly, that saw has cabinet mounted trunions, integrated casters, and a t-square style fence. Very desirable features.
The downside to granite is that you can’t use magnetic jigs/featherboards. Thats a big downside to me, but most people couldn’t care less.
$250-300 would be a ‘good’ price for that saw….....but for an extra $50, you can get the saw tomorrow and start cutting wood. I probably wouldn’t let $50 chase me away from the saw if I really wanted it.

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#2 posted 12-14-2015 01:51 AM

My hard Christmas budget is 300. Is this saw worth the 350?

Maybe, maybe not… if it’s been sitting a while, you may need to sink more money into it to get it into shape.

But, if your limit is $300, then offer $300. If they say no, walk away. There will always be another machine come along within your limit.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: My limit is and always has been $150 or less :)

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#3 posted 12-14-2015 02:18 AM

I don’t like “new never used still in the box” tools if they have been around for a while.

That means no one has put it together so no one knows if it has missing or damage parts or some flaw in manufacturing that would/could have been addressed in a timely manner within the warranty period when it was first purchased. If you buy that saw now all the problems are yours.

If you buy a saw used that’s set up and running all those possible problems have probably been addressed long ago and you can see how the tool preforms.

Just my view.

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JRI25

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#4 posted 12-14-2015 02:34 AM

Thank you for all the posts. All of you make some great points that make me think this just isn’t the saw for me. The decent deals on Craigslist get swooped up within a couple hours. Any other recommendation for purchasing tools?

Can’t wait to get started on my first project.

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#5 posted 12-14-2015 02:39 AM

The decent deals on Craigslist get swooped up within a couple hours. Any other recommendation for purchasing tools?

Yup… know what you want, how much you are willing to pay, and be ready to pounce when it comes along. Don’t waste time asking for opinions, if it’s worth it, etc… If you are lucky, you will be the first to get to it. If not, then wait for the next one to come along.

Can’t wait to get started on my first project.

If you can’t wait, you will pay more… Patience is key on CL :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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JRI25

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#6 posted 12-14-2015 02:42 AM

Hey I’ve read a lot on this site and educated myself. The only one I was on the fence about (pun intended) was the granite top. You guys are seriously a wealth of knowledge and I look forward to being active in this community.

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#7 posted 12-14-2015 02:21 PM

I’ll echo the same concerns someone else mentioned about buying any power tool that’s new and in the box….this saw is untested, and has no warranty. It sold new in the $550-$600 range. It has fairly beefy cabinet mounted trunnions. The fence is functional, but not great. If it’s complete, intact, and runs properly, it’s still worth $350 IMO.

It’s worth noting that it was made by or in conjunction with Steel City/Orion, which is now out of business….parts are likely available, but you won’t have the luxury of leaning on your retailer to get them for you if necessary. Perhaps that info can persuade the seller to sell for $300. It essentially has the same guts as the current Craftsman Pro 22116 hybrid and the former Steel City 35925/35930….parts may be available through one of them if needed.


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#8 posted 12-14-2015 02:37 PM

JRI25 – A few years ago I bought the craftsman with the granite top. Since I’ve never worked with a saw with a cast iron top, I guess I dont know what I’m missing. Granite was actually a choice for me – I have a basement shop in an old house – moisture will always be a problem, so cast iron was a concern (and a cost upper).

Yes, it would be cool and a time saver to use those mag switch thingies. But, dont let that fact alone scare you off from a granite top (which is usually a little more afforadable than CI).

Table saws are tough on Craigslist. People want top dollar for junk. Super deals are rare (at least from what I’ve seen).

Good luck with your hunt!

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#9 posted 12-15-2015 01:20 AM

I looked at those granite table Ridgid saws several years ago and they had a recall on them while I was still looking. I think it was something about faulty arbors breaking.

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#10 posted 12-15-2015 01:33 AM

I looked at those granite table Ridgid saws several years ago and they had a recall on them while I was still looking. I think it was something about faulty arbors breaking.

- gfadvm

The arbor was machined wrong, and there was the possibility of the machine spitting a stacked dado stack blade at you :)

It only applies to a limited number of machines though… here is the CPSC recall notice.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#11 posted 12-15-2015 01:57 AM

Thanks Brad, I remembered it was SOMETHING about the arbor.

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