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woodsmithshop

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01-09-2010 07:19 PM

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does anyone know what the deal is with Eureka Woodworks, they say that they will help sell the products you make, no fees, not a franchise, etc. is it a good deal, or too good to be true?
do you buy the material from them, or what? anyone know?
http://www.eureka-business.com/wj122008171

-- Smitty!!!


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ellen35

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#1 posted 01-09-2010 10:32 PM

if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is… check out the disclaimer at the bottom… they promise nothing!

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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#2 posted 01-09-2010 11:26 PM

yeah, I am just curious as to what the deal is, they offer a sample package for $149, I don’t see selling an Adirondack chair, finished, for that much, at least not around here.

-- Smitty!!!

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#3 posted 01-09-2010 11:43 PM

The items don’t look that great in my book. and nothing a good woodworker couldn’t do anyway without help.. JMHO

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woodsmithshop

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#4 posted 01-09-2010 11:53 PM

around here most folks would build their own rather than buy, and shipping them would not be cost effective either, so I don’t see what they are trying to promote, except themselves.
over 40 years ago, there was an ad in a magazine, send $2. 00, and they would send you something that was guaranteed to kill cockroaches, one fellow, ( not me), sent for it he received a small block of wood and a small mallet, the instructions were to place cockroach on block of wood, then hit cockroach with mallet, guaranteed to kill the cockroach. honest product, but somewhat misleading. lol

-- Smitty!!!

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#5 posted 01-10-2010 01:19 AM

Looks like another one of those guys that set at a desk peddling BS to generate a cash flow without producing anything of value. Guess you just get to use the brand name?? I’d ask for info, but don’t want to be pestered for the rest of my life:-)) You would think if there is anything of value for sale, the site would at least say what it is, eh??

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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woodsmithshop

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#6 posted 01-10-2010 02:17 AM

they ask for your phone #, all I want is info just to see what they are about, I don’t want them bothering me

-- Smitty!!!

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KayBee

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#7 posted 01-10-2010 03:00 AM

I was curious too. Contacted them when they first came out. If I recall correctly there are three levels of buy in. Mostly, what you get are cnc cut jigs, paper plans/assembly instructions, some color brochures and advice on selling at craft fairs. They also had ‘special member pricing’ on close out jet equipment. All this for $7000-$12000 range. Their customers seem to be mostly people without a clue about woodworking. You can get more info on selling at craft fairs here on LJs, and we’re much nicer : )

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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woodsmithshop

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#8 posted 01-10-2010 03:43 PM

thanks KayBee , for the info, I figured it for some kind of promo, but I didn’t think it would be so extravagant,
(I am trying to be nice about this,lol) wow, $7000-$12000, if I had that kind of money to spend, I would get a
“wee beasty” and move to Australia, or vice versa, lol
anyway thanks for the info, I am sure you have opened some eyes on LJs

-- Smitty!!!

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hinklephil

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#9 posted 02-28-2010 09:57 AM

I am a Eureka producer. It has been very good for me. They do provide marketing assistance, teach you how to find the right market to sell your product and they have a website where anyone wanting to buy a chair, the sale goes to the producer closest to that customer. The wood is from a supplier in Washington. The price is good but you don’t have to buy from them. Eureka provides, plans, instructions, marketing and business tips, templates and the most amazing assembly jigs I have ever seen. It is designed to get you into business quickly and assembling furniture fast and with great results. I get great compliments on the quality of chairs I build. I am happy I bought into it. In the first year, I sold more than enought product to recoop my investment.

-- Lucky to get paid for what I love to do. Make sawdust.

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#10 posted 02-28-2010 05:32 PM

i am not surprised hinklephil. i have looked into Eureka and see it as an investment with a good return if you take advantage of what they offer. my problem to date is i think i would have to give up my day job and company car and other bennies. not quite ready to make the jump.

how long have you been with them?

russv

-- yknotwood.com: where to go because you don't want no stinking plastic!

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hinklephil

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#11 posted 02-28-2010 07:49 PM

I have been with them a little over a year. I was with another company that made a similar product and they went out of business in late 2008. I had already gotten started and had some customers and sales were coming in. I decided to just build them myself and stay in business. I tried for a couple months but I could not find a source for the wood and the assembly process was very time consuming, cutting profit. I found Eureka. It was just what I was looking for. I can build a standard chair from bare wood to a finished product in about 4 hours. Much quicker if I have all the peices pre cut and sanded. That’s what I do. In down time, I pre cut and stack the pieces, so when I get an order, I just assemble in less than an hour. This way I can actually make a profit. I don’t think I would give up that job, company car and benefits, but I think most Eureka producers start out part time anyway.

-- Lucky to get paid for what I love to do. Make sawdust.

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russv

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#12 posted 02-28-2010 09:15 PM

i thought daytime hours would be needed to market your products. so buying the hardware and wood at good prices is part of doing business with Eureka? do they have a blog or forum similar to LJ? what is the extent of their support?

don’t mean to be nosey, but like woodsmithshop, i am very curious. i will probably keep asking questions if you don’t mind answering.

any other Eureka users out there?

russv

-- yknotwood.com: where to go because you don't want no stinking plastic!

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hinklephil

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#13 posted 03-01-2010 12:40 AM

Russv, Eureka is there with any questions you have. The owner Harry Wilk always answers the phone. He has several people there that can assist with building questions or marketing questions. They have training classes, a discussion board like LJ for all members so you can ask other producers all the questions you want. They have a supplier for wood, another for hardware, screw, bolts etc. They provide templates, marketing material and lots of other things through Eureka. The business is yours, so after you purchase the program, they send you a pallet of wood 1150 board feet of it, templates for each piece or furniture, and assembly jigs to build them quickly. You decide how you want to run your business. There are 3 levels at wich you can sign up. Not sure on all the prices but each prce increase, gets you more products. There are about 40 different pieces of furniture. All are out door patio type items with the Adirondack chair being the flagship item they are known for, but they have tables, garden chairs, rocker, love seats, gliders, swings, benches, planters and a whole line of kids furniture. I sell on weekends alot at craft fairs, home shows and such, but I also do internet sales, direct mail and newspapers advettising.

I have even hired a sales person who works on direct commision. Her job is to get my furniture into stores on a wholesale basis. I get repeat sales through stores and much more exposure. There are producers who only deal in the wholsale market. My goal would be to open a larger shop, hire a delivery guy and just stay in the shop and build furniture. But for now, I do almost everything myself except for bookkeeping and the sales my salesperson gets for me.

I’m sure that if I stayed in it by myself without Eureka’s help, I might eventually make some money. the templates and assembly jigs are unique but they were designed and made by a woodworker, so another woodworker could do the same thing. But that would take me alot of time that I could spend on making my business grow. Even in this slow economy, I am working and making money. I hope it picks up as the economy does, but it has been worth it for me.

And by the way, I don’t mind any question you may have. Check my website that Eureka set me up with as part of the producer package. www.openrangewood.com
Phil Hinkle

-- Lucky to get paid for what I love to do. Make sawdust.

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russv

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#14 posted 03-01-2010 05:27 PM

so you can add items to your business just by buying the templates, one time charge? is the wood you buy pre-cut for specific products? the hardware and wood is priced competitively to what you would pay else where? it seems to me they (Eureka) make their steady income from selling wood, hardware and jigs, and now logos?.

You also do other products not on their list?

russv

-- yknotwood.com: where to go because you don't want no stinking plastic!

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TheDane

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#15 posted 03-01-2010 06:00 PM

From what I can tell, Eureka is legit … but I think you get out of these kinds of schemes only what you are willing to put into them.

Eureka sounds a little like Mary Kay Cosmetics. A few years ago, my wife and one of her friends got hooked up with a Mary Kay ‘consultant’ and decided they wanted to get into the business. My wife tried to do it part-time, and was hardly able to book enough business to make ends meet. She wound up liquidating her stock of cosmetics and supplies for pennies on the dollar. Her friend, meanwhile, quit her regular job at a bank to do Mary Kay full-time. The woman works her heiney off, but she has a terrific income, drives a pink car, and says she love sit.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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