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Forum topic by chethead posted 12-10-2015 04:31 PM 495 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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chethead

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12-10-2015 04:31 PM

Hello -

New to this forum from a recommendation from a Woodcraft employee. I am making my first woodworking piece, a printer stand for my parents. It is going ok so far and I’m happy with the way it is turning out for my first experience. I am having an issue with some inset cup hinges I bought. My plan is to have a larger door that swings open from top to bottom so a second printer (rarely used so normally hidden) can slide out on a shelf.

I made a test setup to see that the hinges would work and unfortunately they don’t seem to. I then tried to back bevel the bottom of the “door” so it wouldn’t catch but to no avail. The whole idea of doing inset door is so it will match drawers that will also be inset.



Did I get the wrong hinges or am I missing something here? I appreciate the help!

Thank you,

Rob


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SirIrb

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#1 posted 12-10-2015 04:46 PM

Look for European style hinges. They are made for this type of set up.
Also, the cup is bored into the door not the carcass. Not sure which way you imagined it on your sample pieces. But it seems you have it where you bored the carcass since you said you beveled the door.
like this
http://www.cabinetparts.com/c/hinges-european/hinges-blum?gclid=Cj0KEQiA4qSzBRCq1-iLhZ6Vsc0BEiQA1qt-zgWRs6V3vuIE2RVtCob3Xtynpv_yXkiMkaUeq6PlzEAaAjCg8P8HAQ

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#2 posted 12-10-2015 05:19 PM

You have them mounted backwards. The cup normally goes in the door stile, and the bracket goes in the cabinet. Look at your sample hinge setup and imagine it as a standard cabinet door. When you do, you will see that you currently have it installed as if it were a full overlay hinge.

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chethead

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#3 posted 12-10-2015 06:38 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I have seen them mounted the other way with the cup on the door. My intent is to have the sliding shelf clear these hinges and my current setup will not let me turn the hinges the correct way. I guess I will have to shim up the slides will go.

So much for trying to plan!

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#4 posted 12-10-2015 06:45 PM

That doesn’t seem like a good use of cup hinges to me since they would get in the way of the printer pulling out. Have you looked into butler hinges? I’m not sure if it can be used inset though.

http://www.leevalley.com/US/Hardware/page.aspx?p=40209&cat=3,41241,41261&ap=1
http://www.amazon.com/Bright-Brass-Butler-Tray-Hinges/dp/B001DSXDLG/ref=pd_sim_60_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=61jlGT3RR-L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=01DBEA1RTTYSD3AV4NST

Those are made for exactly this type of operation.

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SirIrb

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#5 posted 12-10-2015 07:01 PM

Make it a huge drawer and pull the printer out. The door becomes a huge drawer front.

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#6 posted 12-11-2015 02:32 AM

You might be better off with a butt hinge, which would allow the door to swing all the way down—a cup hinge will not.

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chethead

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#7 posted 12-15-2015 06:48 PM

I was very interested in trying the butler hinge as it appeared to be exactly what I was looking for. However, upon further thought, the piece will look fine with the door open but will not be inset when the door is closed. I was hoping not to use butt hinges because I didn’t want to see the hinge but I don’t know of anything else that will work.

Thanks for the feed back!

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#8 posted 12-15-2015 07:06 PM

Hi Rob,
Try increasing the angle until the door clears.

Keith

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#9 posted 12-15-2015 08:23 PM



Thanks for the info guys. I have seen them mounted the other way with the cup on the door.

There’s only one way to sue them, with the cup on the door.

If you need a pullout drawer to clear the door, then you need to make the drawer smaller and mount the slides to spacers.

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