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Ripper70

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12-07-2015 11:35 PM

Hey All,

Still in the hunt for a good used table saw and I came across a CL listing for a Jet JWTS-10 that’s still in the original box, never been assembled.

The seller is not providing a price but rather is taking offers.

The machine is probably 10 years old (or more) and a pic from the listing is below.

I’ve read some good things about this unit but really have no idea what a fair price would be to pay for such an item or what, if any, pitfalls there might be in an unused table saw that’s been sitting in a box for a decade or so.

Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo


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conifur

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#1 posted 12-07-2015 11:43 PM

I thought I read here, blue jets dont have replacement parts any more. So what does he want $, no warranty, I would make sure the motor runs, if corrosion on shaft, brushes wont conduct electricity, ect. Be cautious.

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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#2 posted 12-07-2015 11:45 PM

I wouldn’t pay more than $50 for it. I’m sure there are others who would offer more though.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: Bearings have a shelf life of about 3 or so years sitting idle (in ideal conditions) before the grease begins to deteriorate and solidify… if you do get it, it would be a good idea to replace them (both in the saw and in the motor).

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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runswithscissors

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#3 posted 12-08-2015 01:55 AM

If it’s an induction motor, it won’t have brushes.

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TheFridge

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#4 posted 12-08-2015 01:58 AM

100$ max.

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Tedstor

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#5 posted 12-08-2015 02:16 AM

If it has a fence like the saw below, its probably worth $150-200. The fence by itself is worth $100. Even if the saw was not viable (and I think it probably is viable), you could buy a used Craftsman 113 for $100, install that fence, and have a pretty capable machine.
I’d offer $150.

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Ripper70

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#6 posted 12-08-2015 02:30 AM



I thought I read here, blue jets dont have replacement parts any more.

Good point. I guess they’re not manufactured anymore but I did find a parts supplier if it came to it. New OEM motor, BTW, is $500! Bearings are available. For others that may be interested, see here:

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/jet-jwts10-708100-super-saw-parts-c-32652_32759_33055.html?gclid=CO-Tp6P7yskCFQEnHwodxJMKVQ


Bearings have a shelf life of about 3 or so years sitting idle (in ideal conditions) before the grease begins to deteriorate and solidify… if you do get it, it would be a good idea to replace them (both in the saw and in the motor).

As the OEM motor is a $500 part, would it be possible to substitute any other comparable woodworking motor of equal horse power? As far as mechanics go, is it more or less six-of-one?


If it s an induction motor, it won t have brushes.

Is there a way to know if it’s an induction motor? I’ve read the user manual and it doesn’t specify induction.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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Ripper70

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#7 posted 12-08-2015 02:35 AM



If it has a fence like the saw below, its probably worth $150-200. The fence by itself is worth $100.

It comes with a Jet JF-10 fence as the box is marked as such. Is that your saw in the picture? Is that the JF-10 fence?

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 12-08-2015 02:38 AM

It’s an induction motor (has the start cap hump on it)... although I have no idea why you would want to replace it?

Cheers,
Brad

PS: Don’t get bearings from an aftermarket supplier… get them from a real bearing supplier. Better quality and much cheaper (shouldn’t be more than about $20-$30 MAX for all of them you would need). ereplacements wants $20 for a single bearing, and you have no idea who made it!!!!

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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Karamba

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#9 posted 12-08-2015 02:46 AM



I thought I read here, blue jets dont have replacement parts any more. So what does he want $, no warranty, I would make sure the motor runs, if corrosion on shaft, brushes wont conduct electricity, ect. Be cautious.

- conifur


Are there brushes in induction motors ?

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Ripper70

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#10 posted 12-08-2015 02:47 AM



It s an induction motor (has the start cap hump on it)... although I have no idea why you would want to replace it?

Only thinking ahead in the event that the motor is not viable or needs replacement at some point in the future. Here’s a pic of the motor in the listing. Is that the capacitor hump circled in red that you were referring to?

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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MrUnix

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#11 posted 12-08-2015 02:56 AM

Are there brushes in induction motors ?

No

Is that the capacitor hump circled in red that you were referring to?

Yes.

It can also be seen in the photo at the e-replacement site:

There is no reason to think that the motor is bad… it’s never been used and at most you would just need to replace the bearings and maybe the capacitor, but i doubt it would be bad. It’s hard to kill an induction motor, and you should expect many decades of use from one if properly maintained.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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Tedstor

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#12 posted 12-08-2015 12:02 PM


If it has a fence like the saw below, its probably worth $150-200. The fence by itself is worth $100.

It comes with a Jet JF-10 fence as the box is marked as such. Is that your saw in the picture? Is that the JF-10 fence?

- Ripper70

Not my saw. I found the pic here on Lumberjocks. However, it appears as if that saw almost always included the same fence. So the saw you’re looking is probably the same.
Honestly, the more I think about it…....$250 would still be a pretty good deal. I think those saws sold for $600 10-15 years ago. I see a lot of potential reward with that saw, and very little risk- PROVIDED all the parts are included. If you can plug in the motor and it works, 95% of the risk is eliminated.
I doubt the bearings will need to be replaced (although they might). I bought a 1950s table saw and a 1960s jointer that hadn’t been turned on in 25 years (according to the seller). They very well might have been the original bearings. Both worked fine once I got them started/moving. Even if they do need to be replaced, its a cheap and easy fix.

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toolie

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#13 posted 12-08-2015 12:42 PM

TS probably a right tilt. That’s a no go for me. And if it’s been in the box all that time, where did the apparent rust on the table top come from?

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Tedstor

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#14 posted 12-08-2015 01:21 PM



TS probably a right tilt. That s a no go for me. And if it s been in the box all that time, where did the apparent rust on the table top come from?

- toolie

Ooooo. I didn’t think about the right tilt. But yeah, I hate that. Some people don’t mind though.
I’m not seeing much rust. Looks more like residue from that oily stuff they apply at the factory to prevent rust.

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Tennessee

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#15 posted 12-08-2015 01:36 PM

I had a shaper offered to me a few months back in the same state.
Years and years old, never been assembled.

I walked away for three reasons:
1.No warranty or real manufacturer support.
2.Could not totally verify that all parts were there. Not referring to a single bolt, but maybe a really hard to find bracket of some sort. I didn’t feel like going through every bag and box.
3.Owner could not really answer the simple question – why did you never use it? Got a lame answer that he bought it from some other estate where the guy passed before he could assemble it, he decided he really didn’t need it after he bought it, and it had sat in the current owner’s garage all this time.

But…
If the person can satisfy all these questions to your satisfaction, I’d certainly consider it at about $150-175. Even new, it still is over 10 years old.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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