Craftsman 22116 new for $600-good buy?

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12-03-2015 09:43 PM

I’m in the market for my first table saw. I have previously been using a friends shop. Our local sears outlet has a new Craftsman Profesional Premium Hybrid (model 22116) on clearance for $599. My budget is $600 ish and I was looking at the Delta 36-725 and Rigid 4215 before i came across the craftsmen. Should I be concerned that Steel City Tools has closed (correct me if im wrong) and there may not be parts avaible for the future? From my limited knowledge of table saws and speaking with a few people, for the same price it seems the Craftsman is a better saw of the three. I know it leans more towards a cabinet saw than the delta or rigid. Thanks in advance for any input!!

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#1 posted 12-03-2015 09:52 PM

I have the granite top version of that same saw. I think it’s a good saw for the money. Definitely better than the rigid or delta. Some on the site may steer tyou towards another brand, keep your options open.

-- I measured once, cut twice, and its still too short...

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#2 posted 12-03-2015 11:07 PM

Probably a good saw…..for a Craftsman.
Not to keen on the granite top. I think that’s a way to make it cheaper.

I’ll sing the song everyone else sings around here: go look for an old Unisaw.

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#3 posted 12-03-2015 11:31 PM

From the simple perspective of the actual saw and performance, I think the 22116@ $600 is about the most bang for the buck you can get in that price range. It’s got some beefy cabinet mounted trunnions, lots of mass, solid wings, and a decent fence….it’s not common to find all of those things in a new $600 saw. I’m not sure that the granite reduces cost much…on the plus side – it’s heavier, flatter, and won’t rust. It’s more breakable than cast iron, but isn’t fragile and can be repaired if necessary. I’d probably roll the dice with the Steel City situation, but it’s really a personal decision you’ll have to make.

Get it aligned, and put a decent blade on it. Please keep us posted with the outcome of your saw quest!

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#4 posted 12-04-2015 12:33 AM

Not a big fan of Sears. Remember that a contractor built it for Sears and Sears changed a few things where the OEM parts will not interchange with the Sears part. Look around before jumping in to the new saw. You probably will find its twin somewhere. If you can see the spec plate, see if it says who the manufacturer is. I looked at a Craftsman riding mower- made by MTD like many others. Wood magazine has power and hand tool reviews. See if you can find an issue that has the saws reviewed in it.

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#5 posted 12-04-2015 01:27 AM

I would avoid Jet and be leery of the new Craftmsna power tools. The old ones are fine, but the newer leave a lot to be desired in motor reliability. Look at a Grizzly!

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#6 posted 12-04-2015 10:42 AM

The saw was originally made by Steel City/Orion. The guts are identical to the former SC 35925/35930 and former Ridgid R4511. It’s always worth doing your due diligence when researching a new tool, but the generalizations of brands don’t really apply, since so many things change so quickly. The only thing I know of that was unique to the Sears version of this saw is the color, name plate, and fence, and the fence is definitely an upgrade from the Ridgid.

Compare the pic posted above with the R4511 below:

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#7 posted 12-05-2015 01:22 AM

Thanks for all the responses. Creating a post was the last step in my research. I spent 2 months searching CL like others had suggested with no avail. My budget was the limiting factor, and yes I could have spent a few more months saving, but finding a good deal on a decent saw allows me to focus on some other item, like the 2 Freud blades I picked up today!!! So with all that said, I purchased the Craftsman 22116. With coupons and my sears points, I paid $717 total which included tax and a 3 year home service warranty. It will arrive at my place tomorrow morning! I will let you all know how the set up goes. Thanks for all the input!

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#8 posted 12-05-2015 01:33 AM

Don’t let them scare you. I have the same saw and I love it. Everyone wants the professional grade cabinet saw, but they can be hard to find. Don’t worry you’ll find plenty of them for sale now that you pulled the trigger. :)
Have fun with your new toy.

-- I measured once, cut twice, and its still too short...

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#9 posted 12-05-2015 01:56 AM

Don t worry you ll find plenty of them for sale now that you pulled the trigger. :)

Yup.. OWWM Rule #3

Also, for the others suggesting trying to look on the data plate or badge to find out who made a particular Sears machine (including Craftsman badged ones)... if you have the full model number, the first three digits is the manufacturer ID, and (usually) can be looked up online at places like this one at the VintageMachinery site:

Craftsman OEM List at

For the saw in question, the full model number is (based on what is in the manual), 351.221160, and the 351 is the manufacturer prefix for Colovos, Co., a Taiwanese machine importer… Scott probably knows more about the relationship between them and Steel City and other similar importers/distributors… it’s not something I’m really familiar with.


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#10 posted 12-05-2015 05:40 AM

+1 on John’s and knotscott’s comments- I got the same saw earlier this year through Sears outlet, and have been extremely pleased with it. It is literally rock solid, and runs really smoothly.

The fence is great- it’s hefty but glides easily, and locks in easily and reproducibly, and it’s fully adjustable to make it square vertically as well as horizontally.

I haven’t seen any downside to the granite top, other than magnetic featherboards won’t work. It’s dead flat, as best I can tell, and I haven’t found it to be fragile. Granted, I don’t hammer on it, and it requires absolutely no maintenance (no rust!).

The miter gauge slots are accurately and smoothly machined. I found that the blade was very slightly out of alignment with the miter slots, but was easily adjusted to <0>t already have one.

Good luck!
John (not the same as the earlier poster).

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#11 posted 12-05-2015 11:43 AM

Congrats on your new saw. IMO you’d be hard pressed to do better than that for $600 in a new saw. Good luck and enjoy!

AFAIK, Colovos is an import/distribution corporation of private label power tools for Sears and Grainger. The same company name came up for the current 21833, even though it’s believed to be made by Dayton. There’s very little info available on the company, and I found one tid bit that said they employ less than 50 people.

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#12 posted 12-05-2015 02:48 PM

I hear and read so much about saws in this price range. I personally think that you could get a dud any time you buy one, or you could get a great saw. Basically all the saws are built about the same. I really don’t like the granite top but a lot of people do. If I were you I’d buy the saw I liked and go with it. Most people will tell you that the saw they use is the best deal, including me. I bought a low end delta saw because I thought it was the best for the money. How could I tell someone to buy another saw? Pick a saw you l IIke from someone that will service it or sell you parts and go with it. You will be the one using it every day. I’ve listened to other people before and regretted it after a few days. Get the saw you want, spend a good bit of time setting it up, learn how to use it, and enjoy it.

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