Milling lumber near Fort Knox Kentucky - need market

I forgot, we are also going to get some tulip (yellow) poplar and sycamore.

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Where are you located?

-- Praki, Aspiring Woodworker

I see you are located in Kentucky. What part of the state are you in?

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

Hello Kentucky!
I wonder if we could ship up a skid to Canada and split it up here.
We could use an assortment of FAS 16/4 down to 5/4 cherry, black walnut, and white oak.
We need matched lumber for furniture and a reasonable width.
Dont forget that turners love stumps and crotch for figure.

Everybody worries about the freight but in reality if we need it here we have to pay freight.
Get some pictures of your stuff up on the site and let’s see what we can do if we put our heads together.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

Praki, we’re near E’town.

Bob #2, Canada? I don’t know. I’ll have to give that some consideration. We don’t have a grader so sorting into FAS, etc. doesn’t seem practical. We need to sell all of this rough-cut as all we have is a small planer that’s not up to jobs this size. I’ve been keeping my eyes open for good crotches and stumps. But stumps are full of rocks and also a lot of work. Our mill can only cut boards 24” wide (31” log) so we’re limited to smaller stumps and crotches at this time. I hope to remedy this next year because we have access to the biguns and a large burl that I’d like to do. We’ve been given standing trees that are 4-5’ dbh. They’re still standing and will be until we get some way to deal with them.

I was hoping to custom cut for waiting customers and load on the spot. There’s going to be leftovers – much of which will be high-grade so some pictures of that would be a good idea.

I guess what I’m saying is we need input and would prefer having the experts (customers) tell us how they want it done. You see, we’ve been at this a while but we’ve mainly been cutting lumber for barns, etc.. We’ve done a fair amount for a few local woodworkers but our capacity exceeds their demand. We’ve done some homework, and feel like we’re ready to move into the furniture market but don’t want to cut a lot of good lumber and just sit on it. Also funds are low (ok, we’re poor) so we’d like a quick turn-around.

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I’d definitely be interested in checking out your operation. I’m only about a half an hour away from E-town. I don’t have a trailer, but I’ve got a 1970 GMC pick-up that hold a lot of 8’ long boards.

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

The mill is portable. We’re setting up on a farm where we’re cutting logs. We may do this in phases and move the mill to other projects inbetween. We have a few logs that a tree service has dropped off at my brother’s place. There will undoubtably be more soon. We also have several logs from a large white oak on a nearby farm. Then there’s several hunderd logs setting (decaying) on another nearby farm. We are also associated with a firewood lot and cut logs there from time to time. On top of all that we pick up some odd jobs here and there. So “our operation” is where the mill happens to be at any given time.

As soon as the mill is moved I’ll give a heads up and maybe we can get togather before the weather gets too bad. And just so I’ll know how to position the logs, what species and sizes are you interested in?

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I wish I was closer, but California is a long ways away. I am sure a lot of folks like JP and others will be looking for this wood.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

I’d be interested in anything you’ve got as far as species is concerned. Size… I’d say anything from 4/4 up to 8/4, any width. Like I said I’ve only got a pick-up so I’d need to stay as close to 8’ as I can get, but if some are a little longer then I could always strap ‘em down. I’m just looking to build a nice stash of lumber so I’m not going to be too picky. Any idea how much you’re looking to sell this stuff for?

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

I am wishing, just like Bill. Sure would love to be closer to you dirtclod. I am sure I could put that entire stock of lumber to good use.

-- Guy Kroll

He’s setting up the mill this weekend and, weather permitting, will be milling next weekend.

Note that we’ll cut to any size the log allows and you require. Want 3×12s or 4×10s? As usual, the bf price on heavier pieces is higher. Also specialty pieces such as spalted, crotches, burls stumps and quartersawn are priced uniquely. In the meantime I’ll get some prices togather for standard mill-run lumber. I’m also open to offers..

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Good luck DC. Be sure to take some pictures of the milling so we can see what you are doing.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Rotting=spalted if you get it dried and out of the elements. Good luck with your business. There are a fair amount of eBay lumber sellers, might be something to look into.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

Yup… if you start shipping it let me know.. I live in Utah and would be interested in Cherry, walnut and maple…

Drew

-- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah

Good luck on getting it going.

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you might want to start by listing ads on craigslist
it is free and millions of folks search the site
noticed several opportunities for lumber similar services etc

link to craigslist

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JP – the mill is moved and ready. Looking to get togather with you this weekend.

Here’s the prices:

Beech 1.10
Cherry 2.40
ERC 1.25
Hickory 1.25
Red oak 1.50
Sycamore 1.00
Sassafras 1.50
Walnut 2.35
White ash 1.10
White oak 1.30
Yellow Poplar 1.10

Prices are for 8’ 4/4 in random widths up to 8”. Thicker, wider and/or longer pieces cost extra. Prices are not valid for quarter sawing. Figured wood (burl, ambrosia, spalting, crotches, etc.) prices are negotiable. Basically all prices are subjective and negotiable. This price list is our first attempt so everything is subject to change depending on the mood of the sawyer, phase of the moon, log on the mill and by the board coming off the log at the moment. Prices are subject to change as soon as I figure out how bad I screwed up. So how does the prices look? (I need input lol)

The logs we currently have harvested are: spalted black gum, spalted sycamore, white oak, walnut, and hickory and cherry. Most harvested logs are 12-24” diameter and in lengths of 8’ to 16’ plus unbucked lengths. We can fetch cedar and sassafrass trees pretty quickly. Also in the vicinity of the mill are cedar, ash, yellow poplar, sycamore, beech, black gum, sassafras and red oak trees and a large cherry tree to be harvested. Most of the unharvested trees are hard to get to and too large for the tractor we were using. We have a high lift coming in sometime to fetch many of the others. There’s also some small exotics available. We also have some red oak and hickory waiting at another site, a large white oak to be quartersawn at yet another site, and others if I can think of where they’re at. There’s some red oak and white pine already cut into random widths ranging from 4-12” W x 8-10’ L 4/4 T. We can also get other species not listed…just give us some time.

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Guys

I would be interested in corresponding about some green bowl blanks. This might be a good opportunity to use large limbs and burls that don’t mill into flat lumber.

Let me know if you are interested.

-- Mike, Maryland, www.thewoodenquill.com

I mean no disrespect, I am only trying to help. I have watched this thread, just because of the title “Milling lumber-Need market”...That is a tough row to hoe brother. Maybe you should find a market and mill for it ? I am speaking from experience here, asking “Does this price look right” kinda sounds bad, even if the price is good.

”We’re not marketers” (quote) Sawing good lumber is step one. If you cannot sell it you are a “lumber collector”, that gets expensive. I wish you luck. If you get in a bind, shoot me a note, maybe I can help. That is a sincere offer.

-- Urban logger, http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

Thanks for the input Darren,
We’ve sold all the lumber we’ve milled so far with the exceptions of logs we milled for others and what we use ourselves. But now things are changing as we’re trying to limit the amount we mill for others and get around to all the logs and trees we’ve been given. We have ample storage and some local buyers. But that doesn’t mean we want to keep it indefinately. We’ve probably got somewhere between 20-45000 bf available for milling. Most of that is best suited to uses other than construction lumber. If sales don’t keep up then we’ll cut back.

““Does this price look right” kinda sounds bad, even if the price is good.” Was partially tounge-in-cheek/partially serious. I’ll take reasonable customer input to adjust for the market. I can usually tell the difference between a snow job and good advice.

mike,
I’ll discuss this with my brother. Many promising pieces get turned into firewood or are milled into deminsion limber. As we speak, I’ve got several walnut blocks that’ll be firewood if I don’t stop my brother in time. We also have a small walnut stump that has the sapwood rotted off of it. I was thinking about milling it but it’s available. I also have a small yellowwood log that may still be good.

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I am intrigued. Do you offer shipping to Iowa? Where is E-town? Is that Elizabethtown, over near Fort Knox?

-- Owen Johnson - aka IowaWoodcrafter

I like the prices on your wood DC. Too bad you are not closer to me, as shipping to California would be a killer. Otherwise, I could use some of that Oak and Poplar.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

I would like to make a fireplace mantle out of quartersawn Oak white or red. What would the cost be and is there a minimum bf to purchase.

-- Scott, Kentucky ----- "Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry" Mark Twain

I love cutting wood and experience has shown me that you develop a marketet by pursuing your dream with a passion. Don’t be afraide to cut cut cut and stockpile the sizes of material that people are asking for. Never stop asking questions and looking for customers. I am just now getting better at shipping. I like to mill from a cut list and have it picked up at the mill site but don’t wait for the customers, just save your best logs for the ones who really want to be there or have the ability to make a pick up. Sounds like you will do good. http://westcoastlands.net/GreenSale.html

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I’m trying my hand (and patience) at posting pictures on this forum.

Spalted black gum (tupelo) and sycamore:

Another spalted black gum

14-16’+ walnut logs


White oak w/nice crotch


Big cherry w/crotch

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I apoligize to all who have sent me private messages and didn’t get a timely response. I’m still trying to get use to this board and seem to be experiencing a major delay in it telling me that new messages have been received.

Scott – as yet I haven’t cut any mantels. The big issues are checking and movement during drying. Checking can be minimized by cutting and drying methods. Movement is dealt with by cutting methods (Free-of-heart-center and quartersawing) and by resawing once it has had a chance to dry. This is a long-term project and I don’t have any dry and ready. Some people like to have some defects to add character. We have some candidate trees. What’s your preference?

Treebones – we’ve already started cutting but have been pressed for time on another project. Hopefully it will be out of the way soon and we’ll be able to turn up the volume in the next few weeks.

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Some nice looking trees there. I bet there will be some nice lumber for someone soon.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

I am going to make the Mantle out of 4/4 lumber. What I would like to get is quartersawn red oak or white oak. I would buy 200 to 300 bd ft.

-- Scott, Kentucky ----- "Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry" Mark Twain

We’ve milled a little bit. All is sickered on the trailer and due to be restacked or sold.

Bastard-sawn 1×6 hickory…bookmatching possible but will crook some during drying.


Some red oak 1×8s w/ low-grade white oak on top. Sorry – too lazy to tear the stack apart.

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Tell Obi about the hickory!

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Yep, I’m another Californian…

Individually, it’s almost impossible to get some good lumber out our way…

If we grouped together, do you other Californians (Left Coasters), think, if we consolidated our orders into one large order… with shipping, somehow, out to us drop-shipped, or drop-shipped a chunk to certain spots where locals could then converge and get what they ordered… something like that…

Do you think it would work?

It would take a lot of work coordinating & grouping the orders to their destinations… it would seem that orders would have to be prepaid… I could volunteer to help out… Would take a lot of cooperation. Everyone would have to be willing to drive a few miles to pickup their orders.

Comments?

DirtClod, if you received orders to the Left Coast could you mark or rope-up the orders to form Drop Ship groups? Could you load a truck with said orders (paying attention to the Order Sequence of loading, for unloading)?

Do we have anyone with shipping background, trucks, etc. that could coordinate the pickup and delivery to the various Drop points? How would the Cost per order be calculated?

Anyone want to try it… if anyone is interested?

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All good questions Joe. You are right, it is tough for the individual to get the really good prices here. The local hardwood dealers have decent prices, but I have to pick and choose my own wood. I am sure the bigger accounts get theirs pre-selected and better quality. It would be nice to order say 200 BdFt of Red Oak, and know I will get nice straight grain, 4/4 clear stock without paying an arm and a leg for it.

Any other thoughts on shipping from anyone?

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Sorry about the delayedc reply. There has been a couple of injuries (not mill related), one illness and bad weather keeping us from the mill. But we’ve made some progress the last few weekends. Hope to be milling tomorrow.

Joe, I don’t know if such a setup would work. But it sounds good provided 1- you can get enough buyers togather in your area and, 2- they have a supplier with enough selection that your buyers can get a large enough order from that single source to make it worth everone’s trouble. If the demand is high enough the vacuum created will be fillled by someone. It isn’t impossible that we could get one togather. Let’s see what happens…

We’ve gotten busy ithe last couple of weekends and milled some logs. Some of it was pretty unusual:



That’s a 8’ 6×6 spalted sassafras. A short section was wetted in the 3rd picture. We’re thinking about giving this away to the 1st customer that picks up a $100.00 worth of lumber.

Next up is what I like to call “spalted wormy maple”. 5 boards, 1×6”, 9’11” long. 2 bookmatches?:

5 more boards, 1×6, 8’6” long, 2 bookmatches:


Unwetted:

Some wetting:


Next is some unusual hickory. (You’ll find a picture of a stack of 1×6 boards from the same tree elsewhere in this thread.) My brother made some 1×6 boards a couple months back from 2 logs out of this tree. It had some interesting figure. I opened the 3rd log two weeks ago. I was stunned. Beautiful stuff. I cut two 5/4 flitches to use as an example and rolled the rest of the log off the mill until we determine how to cut it. I think flitches are the way to go but I need customer input. How thick? In addition to the remainder of this log, we’ve got two more unmilled logs from the same tree. They’re all about 14”(?) diameter and 8’ long. The pictures don’t look as stunning because it has been drying for a few weeks. But maybe a good finish will bring it back:





Wetted about 2’:

We cut a small cherry tree also. I’ll call it “pecky cherry”. A few boards are 6’, but most are 8’. They’re random widths and most boards have some sapwood. This hasn’t been drying long enough to take on cherry’s traditional darker color. I’ve wetted a section to show what it looked like when milled:

There may be 300bf of cherry buried in this stack:

Also Buried in this stack is 12(?) 8’ bookmatched sets of 5/4 spalted tupelo, and some 5/4 and 1” sasafras. I was too lazy to tear the stack apart to get pictures.

We have more lumber and pictures, but that’s enough for now.

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Beautiful looking wood. I bet someone will be picking that up soon.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Dirtcold, I am always looking for a new wood supply. I am fairly familiar with E-town. How far are you from Campbellsville? I would love to take a look at what you have the next time I visit my mother. chiefk

-- P Kennedy Crossville, TN

ChiefK – It’s about a 1 hour drive from Camblesville.

We’ve been milling walnut. Going to be doing some more 8’ tomorrow. May also flitch some for turning blanks.

We’ve done 12 and 8’ lenghts of 1” in random widths (~4”-9”) and some wide 8’ 5/4 (~10—12”). Bear in mind this stuff is fresh off the mill and hasn’t taken on its rich dark color that’s typical of black walnut. Matter !of fact some of the boards in the shots still show wetness on their surfaces.Here’s what we’ve got so far:

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Don’t have any idea where E’Town is, but you may want to vist the following forums. There are some guys there in Kentucky and western NC that might be interested in your wood. Sorry, but I’m too far east.

http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=wwwtoolinfoforu
http://ncwoodworker.net/

Good luck. Nice looking lumber

Go

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Dirtclot, how do I contact you? Where exactly in Kentucky are you located? I live in Crossville, TN, but visit my mother In campbellsville fairly often. I would like to take a look at the operation. Currently I am getting my wood from a mill in Monticello. chiefk

-- P Kennedy Crossville, TN

That stack of walnut looks tasty!
What a erge I have for a cubberd/ one of those cabinets in the kitchen for bread and some dishis, I think.

A finished project is just a hop,skip,jump away.

Saturday afternoon’s haul (1” and 5/4” walnut, 8+’ lenghts in 3(?) to 11.25” widths):


A few boards were showing slight signs of spalting:

Atonther bookmatched set of the spalted pecky/wormy maple wetted (but not quiet enough) for your viewing enjoyment:

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I wish you guys the best. Before you start selling and shipping lumber out of the state of Kentucky it would be a good idea to check in with your Dept. of Agriculture. They can bring you up to date on all the rules, regs, and necessary legal proceedures involved.

Many states are now controlling movement of lumber due to the spread of the Emerald Ash Borer. I know for a fact that there is a stiff fine issued to anyone who takes lumber over the Mackinaw Bridge.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

When you say Etown, Do you mean Englishtown NJ?

Justin

I live in E-town ( Elizabethtown, KY). Do you have a kiln to dry the lumber? Storage for air drying might be a problem for me. Give me a call to discuss this 769-3646

Hi I was wondering if you shipped any of your lumber, or if you could ship cants? I live in Idaho and it would be nice to mill something besides pine and fir! You could email me at bowelkhntr@turbonet.com John

-- John of Idaho

Hello Elkhunter,
No shipping at this time. I’m still trying to get bro. to do some shipping of small quantities.

Hello Justine,
That’s E’town Ky.

Hello cuz ,
No kiln…but it’s in our longterm plans.

Thanks 8iowa,
I think the restrictions are limited to ash. Last I heard, we’re not in the affected area. All is subject to change because they’re not that far away. Shame, our local ash is more rot resistent than common.

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I was hoping for some spalting from the butt tupelo log pictured earlier in this thread. Here’s what I got instead:

Look at 10’ long 2×6(?) just above the 6×6 sassafras support beam. There’s 12 of them. you’ll see I’ve wetted it a little. This is my first tupelo and I like its rich, yet understated, tones…kinda elegant looking.

The #2 tupelo log pictured earlier I quarter-sawed, numbered and bookmatched. (Sorry, no pictures…it’s buried beneath the maple/sassafras/sycamore in the 8’ stack.

We’ll try to get this black walnut on the mill in the next few days:

Its 12.5-13’ long, ~25” at the butt and ~23” at the small end. I saw no signs of defects in the bark whatsoever. I’ll try to mill it next week. I’m thinking on flat-sawing it all and making a few 1.5” thick and as of wide boards as possible for bar tops. The #2 log I’ll include the upper crotch and turn it into flitches (slabs). Any thoughts?

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We’ve added some 9’4”(?) long 4/4 white oak in random widths. Many clear boards, some wide/clear. It’s a mix of flat, rift and quarter sawn:

And some 10’ long 4/4 white oak in both narrow and wide 11 1/8”(?) widths, with some numbered for bookmatching. Lots of swirly grain:

And some 12’ long 4/4 red oak in wider widths. All(?) of it contains small knots:

We’ll be milling more walnut and red oak soon. I expect a lot of clear boards from the red oak.

4’ walnut butt, 8’ walnut butt log, 4’ r.oak butt and 16’ r.oak butt log:

2- 8’ r,oaks, 12’ r. oak butt log, walnut top:

I hope to haver more walnut, red and white oak coming soon.

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That sure it a pretty tree, are you going to use a backhoe for root ball?

Hello BlueStingrayBoots,

Unfortunately it was hollow. But I did have one that’s in an awkward position. I don’t know if we’ll ever get it. There are two more small ones that I will pratice on. And theres one more that I would like to dig out if the highlift ever shows up.

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I am interested in some quarter sawn white oak. What would you charge for this? I am in Southern Indiana, not far from you.

-- Daniel, Southern Indiana -- "Have nothing in your home that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful." -- http://blackdogwoodshop.etsy.com

Hello blackdogwoodshop,

Be glad to sell that white oak before it gets buried. I’m doing all the milling that the weather allows. While I don’t have any 10’ logs at the mill (the stack with the white oak in it is 10’), this is subject to change within a week. So please hurry. :)

$1.30 for mill-run white oak. A $0.25 per bf extra for q-sawn.

There’s an extra charge for boards wider than 8”. This will vary by species and ultimate width. For white oak (subject to change) I would charge $.10 extra per per bf for each 1” of width over 8”. For example: A white oak board that’s 6” wide 4/4 thick and 10’ long would = 5 bf and would sell for $6.50 at 1.30 bf. But if the same board were 12” wide then the calculations would be 10bf x 1.30 = $13.00 + (4 inches over the 8” limit at $0.10 per bf extra = $.40×10 bf = $4.00) = $15.00 ttl.

I think I need to define mill-run: Mill-run is every board from the log regardless of grade. So when buying mill-run lumber you are obligated to take every board, from the top of the stack down, until the desired quantity is reached. There’s no cherry-picking allowed if you are paying mill-run rates. If you want to cherry-pick then it is no longer considered mill-run and prices change.

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dirtclod
got any cedar?

-- Ashley West

Dirtclod,

I am roughly 5 1/2 hours away. It would be worth the trip forme justto come down and see what you have to offer and more than likely buy some lumber. Are your prices still the same as above?

-- Todd C, Central Illinois

Ashley113,
Very little cedar at this time. Will be harvesting sometime and have a pile of logs waiting at another site. What sizes interest you?

JetJock,
No changes and still room for some negotiation.

I’ve added 60(?)+ 4-5’ bokmatched walnut flitches. The logs ranged from antique standing dead to fresh cut. Most have crotches and don’t have bark. Many of these have a unique honey color to them not normally associated with walnut, some have the traditional freshly harvested walnut color, while the antique log produced a Hersheys chocholate color I’ve never seen before. Looks like there’s enough there to supply tables for a coffee shop/bar.

Here’s the old tree:

I’ve also added some 12’ 6”x 8/4 and 11.25”(?) x 5/4 red oak.

I’ll try to post some pictures soon.

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I’m going to come and see you guys. I need some walnut, 1/4 sawn oak and maybe some cherry. I live in AL, so it might not be too bad a drive. My brother is going to mill some cypress and pecan for me in the meantime over in LA. You guys keep up the good work.

-- Jason, AL

coolbreeze,
PM sent.

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Hi dirtclod. I would definitely be interested in some black locust and/or osage orange if you happen to run into any large trees. I need quartersawn pieces at least 8.5” to 9” wide for guitar building, and have no problem air drying the wood myself. If you ever run into any, please get in touch.

Also interested in wide boards of quartered black walnut.

Vinman

Hi Dirtclod, Somehow my first signup got discombubulated ??? Any way, I sent you an e-mail asking your location as I work in e-town, live in leitchfield. Would like to buy some rough lumber for a project, build my youngest a toy box/blanket chest. Since I can no longer gain access to the original sign in I never received your return e-mail. Can you please tell me where or how I can find you. Thanks.
PS, I am looking for something special such as spalted or fhighly figured wood.
Thanks Again.

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Vinman, There’s a lot of locust growing around here but for some reason none has show up on the mill. There’s one on the property that’s nice, straight and tall. But, if I cut it, it’s going to go over the the road and two fences. Hedge is somewhat rare around here. A man is frequently dropping off free loads of logs and I had previously made it known I would like to have all of both that he runs into….along with holly, coffee tree, red mulberry, etc. But so far he just keeps dropping off pine, poplar, hickory, oak and walnut. What’s a begger to do? (lol) I’ll posts if some turns up.

Magdaddy, Pm sent.

I milled ~ 10 short black walnut logs into bookmatched flitches. (Some call them slabs.) Most I made 5/4 thick.I currently have 3 color groupings. I have 6 logs in the first color grouping and they typically run 4-4 1’2’ long. I would like to sell them in complete sets. Here’s a sampling:

Set 1 (6 flitches):

The color in the following photo is near true but lacks some richness. Remember, this walnut hasn’t been cut very long and will darken more with age. I’m seeing it already. When I first cut them and wetted to check color they came honey colored. This picture was taken on Saturday. They’re now muck darker

set1 flitches 5 & 6 side A:

I’ve taken a lot of pictures, measurments and notes of the first 5 sets and can provide more details to serious buyers. I will try to get pictures and notes on the remaining sets soon. Each set will be uniquely priced based loosly on a board foot charge. I try to get some posted soon.

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Hi Dirtclod,
I’m interested in the Black walnut. I actually have 3-4 very large trees on my property that may make good lumber. I have not seen anything regarding your location.?Thanks Bob

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MagDaddy2 – sent you another PM I hope you get it.

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Here’s some pictures of the second color grouping.

These run ~77” long. Two are 8/4 thick and the other 3 are 5/4 thick. They’re wormy. The color didn’t show true in the photos. It’s really what I would call reddish chocolate brown, simular to cocoa. I’ve included a photo of a turning blank because the color looks closer to true. Antique walnut flitches:

I managed to get two shots of the third color grouping before I ran out of time. I milled 3 or 4 of these freshly-felled logs. They ran ~4’ long. I cut them 5/4 thick except a number of random boards I also milled from that batch. Al,l except these two samples, still have the bark on them.

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dirtclod, i have enjoyed your little diary…sadly, i live in canada and fetchin’ me some of that lumber is out of the question, but thought i must make this comment. i really think you need to post a pic of you and your brother out by some of your lumber… i feel like i know you but have no idea of what you look like…

all the best!

jw

I appreciate your seniments. But God has helped me shed most of my vainity. (Ask anyone who’s seen me.) But, if you must know, I look like Gandoff…only uglier!

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Dirtclod I neve thought I’d say this but I wish I lived in KY. In this part of Soothern Indiana we can get some good white ash and all the ambroia maple you can shake a stick at (poor attempt to be funny). The red oak is hard to find in good width size here. I am gonna tell my cousin about your set up. i wish you and your brother MUCH luck. Just so you know, you have a lot of people on here drooling. Keep up the good work and the pictures are great.

-- God bless the men and women who protect our counrty.

Thanks, I post those not just to sell some lumber but also to give others some eye-candy. I still have some buried that I should have gotten shots of.

But I wish it all looked that good. Now that most of the drying defects have shown up a few of the piles are going to have to have some bad sorted out of them. Several are building barns and sheds around here and they will get put to good use. I would like to have a wide drum sander or planer to run them through to pretty them up, then size them (we leave and extra 2-6” on standard lengths for this so you typically will still end up with say 8’ after squaring/removing the end checks), then (if required) edge them to remove any crook. However, I would have to raise the bf prices. For now, I will leave this to the buyers.

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I just talked with my brother. He’ has been talking to someone who wants to buy all the lumber we have at less than wholesale prices. Despite my best efforts he’s determined to sell all of our lumber in one foolish deal to someone he just met. I can’t seem to change his mind. This includes a big walnut butt log that may be veneer-quality my brother says he wants to mill for this guy and sell him the lumber for ~2.00 bf.

The deal hasn’t been struck. He’s meeting with him this weekend. Says he can’t wait for people to show up. I’m disappointed by this new development.

I’ve been contacted by numerous people on this site who said they were going to stop by. If any of you want some of this lumber before the deal goes through then you better contact me soon. The only way to change my brother’s mind is if he had some sales at reasonable prices.

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hey dirtclod where is all this fine looking lumber stored? if its close to denver i’m in.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust-

Thanks Roper. We’re in Kentucky.

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Did you liquidate all your wood? Looking for some cherry?

Thanks.

Matt
Lexington

As it turns out – no!. Seems the deal wasn’t discussed futher. Maybe my arguements carried some weight?

I’ve got maybe 300 bf on the bottom of this stack:

But the stack is now around twice as tall so we’ll have to move a lot to get to it. You can see a picture of one board earlier in this thread. It was milled ~Feburary. It’s much darker now. I think it was all milled 4/4 and all of it came from the same tree, so color matching should be easier.

I don’t have any more cherry logs at the mill. Maybe one will show up soon. But we do have a large standing one we’ll be milling this fall.

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Though some more eye candy was in order. The short walnut flitches have checked some but have taken on a beautiful color:

We’re currently sold out of poplar but will be milling some more sometime this winter.
We’ve added a little elm and sugar maple.
We’re adding some ERC soon.
More coming!

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Do you ship (I’m in San Diego, CA)?
I’m interested in sugar maple and if you have cherry, that would be good too.
What are your prices.
I don’t mind paying more for the good (figured) stuff.

WOW! I read this, then I began to scroll down to answer you(dirtclod) & it me 10 minutes to get to the bottom of the list. Holy Moly I don’t think that you’ve got anything left! I’d be interedted in some wood in the 4/4”, 5/4”, 8/4”, & 10/4”.
Wormy Maple – 5/4” only 8’ – 12’ 200 bf plaine sawn
White & Red Oak – 4/4”, 5/4”, 8/4” & 10/4” 7’ – 12’ 5-600 bf Quarter sawn 60%
Cherry – 4/4” & 5/4” 6’ – 12’ 200 bf plain sawn
Western Red – 4/4”, 5/4” & 8/4” 8’ – 16’ 1000-2000 bf vertical grain
Walnut – 4/4”, 5/4” & 8/4” 6’ – 13’ 3-500 bf All cuts I can take it in the rough, can s4s it myself & the horse people out here love it, except for the Walnut, that’s poisonous to horses, & not to good for us either. I have the capability to have the wood picked up if nessercary (I hate that word, Kan’t spell it). Anyway, if you guys are intersted, let me know.

-- Bob Schilke

cmaeda,
We’re not shipping at this time. There are some prices listed earlier in this thread.

Bob Schilke,
I have 10 spalted wormy maple boards. There’s pictures of them earlier in this thread. There’s one very promising sugar maple log waiting to be milled. I know it’s spalted. I’ll post a picture here. Both ends showed the same spalting pattern. I checked the ends and they were both solid. But I didn’t see any worm holes. We’ll just have to open it up to see what it’s really like. This one is 18’ long:

There’s two more promising maples I need to harvest at this site. There’s not big – then again, neither was the one that yielded the boards pictured earlier. We also have a huge standing red maple that died last year. We want to tackle it if we get caught up and brave enough.

I’ve got both red and white oak, and cherry and walnut. But I won’t be getting western red cedar – It doesn’t grow around here. Someone is supposedly coming in the next few weeks to pick up most, if not all, of the cherry, most of the white oak, and maybe all the sycamore.

I’ve still got about 1000 bf of 4/4 and 5/4 walnut. This is a beautiful stack and all but the 5/4 should be dry. I have little in the way of walnut thicher than 5/4. We pith-centered a number of beams and used them for stack supports and top weights. There may be 12 of these that range from 3-6” in girth and 4-12’ in length.

We’ve also got a huge walnut tree and several other walnut logs from another walnut tree yet to be milled. I plan on sawing the biggest stuff into wide and thick boards and flitches. Got money? We will custom cut them to your desired sizes.

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I wish you were shipping…

-- Derek, Bremerton WA --

WOW!! I just read this thread for the first time. Now if I only had some cash for gas, and wood, I’d be willing to take a drive from Illinois!

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

You really do have some seriously nice timber/lumber there anyway living in Scotland uk I can only watch and drool.lol anyway the important thing is not cuttinmg it but drying it if it’s wet when sold then expect l;ots of problems otherwise dry it for your customer or let them dry it well done wish you were here etc Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

Got some more sugar (hard) maple stacked:

From the bottom: 8’ 12/4 in 12-13” widths, 8’ 12/4 turning squares, 8’ 8/4, 8’ 5/4 random widths up to 12”, with the remainder of the boards in the stack being 5-8’ 4/4 in random widths. The 17/4 beams on top are pith-centered and used for weights only. All boards were flat-sawn.

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very cool. So is there anything useful in the pith section? MY experience was that when I bought a couple boards with the pith, it just rotted out (but I thought I was being smart because it was quartersawn by default). Just wondering if after unsing this for wight, whether it would be good for anything in the woodworking realm.

HokieMojo,
I’d be willing to bet that all those cants that have pith in them will split open, twist and bow That’s been my experience with pithy sugar maple cants in the past. But a few could survive. Anyway, I need stack weights. It don’t matter if they’re cracked. If they come out ok I’ll sell them. And If I get too many twisted cracked cants I can use them as firewood.

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thanks for the response. There are lots of knowledgable people here and I try to sponge every bit of knowledge off of people like yourself that I can. Everything I can learn with out learning it “the hard way” is a step in the right direction. Thanks again!

Wow, I’m impressed reading this thread for the first time. Sounds like you have a gold mine but need buyers. Did you every try the Craig’s List idea?? If I ever get back to KY with a truck, I will look you up. I live in MA and was stationed at FT Knox for a while. I wish I could find a saw mill like yours up here in MA. Does anyone know of any mills operating in the central MA area?

Keep up the good work!

Steve

Here’s an upcoming project:

That’s a hornbeam. (Carpinus caroliniana: American hornbeam, blue beech, broomwood, musclewood, o-tan-tahr-te-weh, smoothbark ironwood, water beech) And for hornbeam, it’s a big’n. It’ has 24’ of sawable log and is over 12” at the butt. [Ok, hornbeam don’t get very big.] They typically don’t get more than 24-27’ tall. This one was over 50’. It was growing in some beech and that’s what it looked like. But I suspected it was hornbeam and couldn’t positively id it until it put on hops.

They are hard to harvest because of they eat chains and slap you around. Everything on them is stiff, heavy, and hard to handle.

Here’s some traditional uses: knife handles, shuttle cocks for weaving looms, tool handles – especially for striking tools, plane bodies, walking canes/sticks, chess pieces, mallets, bowls, and ox yokes.

I hear it’s hard to glue and takes a good burnishing polish. It’s not sold often because it don’t get very big and it’s hard to dry without cracking.

Weather and schedule permitting we’ll be milling this next month. The buck points on the log should be (starting at the butt) ~4’, ~6’, ~5’, ~9’. This is a rare wood (particularly this big/long) and I want to cut it to order.

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Just found this thread. I am in KY. Do you qtrsaw any sycamore

-- http://www.efcabineture.com/ You can be tired, or you can be broke, but you should never be tired and broke.

Rhett – response to your PM sent. We will q-saw sycamore but there’s few sycamores available and they have to be harvested. We do have some through-sawn (flat,quarter and rift) that has been drying for ~ 1 year. I remember much of it was cut 8/4 but there could be 5/4 and 4/4 also. Seems there was a lot of clear in that tree (I need to tear the stack apart to get a better look at it) but it seems it experienced some warp, etc. during drying. We’re due to tear many of these stacks apart soon and I’ll be able to tell what they look like then.

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Nice looking lumber/logs wish we had more walnut in my area West Central GA! Lucky you!

-- Fred, Georgia

I have been asked by several people if we have cedar. We had very little so I didn’t want to commit. Recently we added a stack that most of the boards need work so I still didn’t want to say yes. But we added some more good stuff over the weekend:

I’m guessing there’s between 150-200 bf of 4/4 and 8/4. The 4/4 is mostly 6” wide, while the 8/4 is mostly 4” wide. It’s not supposed to be for sale. But we’ll be milling more cedar in the future and brother’s cedar walls can wait. :)

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are you interested on quoting me a price on 100 b/f of walnut 4/4 6 plus and 100 maple of the same? shipping to central SC (29819).. i wish i had a way to harvest the 1000’s of bf of hickory and oak on my place..some of the hickory is shag bark, looks more like pecan the hickory when dried

-- it's not a sickness, i can stop buying tools anytime i want

That looks great. My dad is cutting down a few cedar trees over the course of a year. I tried slabbing the one log he did cut down, but I just couldn’t get a straight cut with a 16” electric chainsaw (no mill attachment). I’m debatiing investing in a better saw with a mill attachement, but again, the cost keep this from being worth it. I wish there were portable bandsaw mills for a couple hundered dollars, but alas… Thanks for the pictures. Now I know what my material SHOULD have looked like.

johnpoole,
We’re not shipping at this time. We are considering shipping small quantities (~10 bf) of short items for craft and turning use. But 100 bf amounts haven’t been considered. Thanks for the interest though!

HokieMojo,
Thanks. Check out some old methods for making short boards. They used to rive (split) them off a short log then plane them flat. Roy Underhill has covered it several times on The American Woodwright Shop on PBS. Good method if you’re into learning how it was done before power tools.

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I’m looking for some 16/4 Poplar turning stock. Any available?

-- I started out with nothing, and still have most of it..... Ernest 1.

to far from me

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

I’m in the Louisville area and would like to buy some boards. Still sawing?

-- Premium firewood created daily.

I wish I were near you I’m a million miles away still you have very beautiful timber there or lUMBER as the jock’s call it I wish you and your brother and families every success I feel your going to do well.God Bless Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

I talked to someone on the phone today (sorry, it takes me a while to cement names) that was looking for turning blanks and got our contact info from this thread. I looked in out inventory and don’t see much that’s as thick or as wide as you’re looking for. But, as I stated on the phone, we’ve got some walnut on deck and that spalted maple pictured earlier in this thread. You said you could stop by next week. To make the side jaunt worthwhile, I’m considering throwing in some free spalted sycamore blanks (not pictured) and that cocoa walnut blank shown earlier in this thread provided you post some pictures of the finished results. We can discuss it when you come by/next time you call.

Ernet1,
We have some small 12’(?) tulip (yellow) poplar logs on deck. I think the poplar is big enough to make some pith-free 16/4 but I need to look at it tomorrow. It has been down since February so it may have some discoloration. If you like the spalting then I have a dead one suspended over a ditch that should be near prime. I don’t expect any more poplar logs until this fall when we start tackling a huge (for us) clearing job. We’ve been cutting for others but the mill should come home this week.

Cory,
We’re still cutting. Looking for something specific?

Thanks Scotsman!

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Dirtclod,

I’m not the one you talked to on the phone but that doesn’t matter. I’m interested in turning stock at least 4+ inches thick. The width isn’t important as I’m usually starting with 4 inch square material and lengths about 12 to 15 inches. The poplar sounds good and spalted sycamore. I have some walnut so don’t need that. I’d like good turning material with interesting grain, spalting, etc. Let me know if you have something that you think will be good for turning.

Ernest1

-- I started out with nothing, and still have most of it..... Ernest 1.

Ernest1,

I didn’t check your profile before replying. I see you’re in Ill.. I should have reminded you we that we still aren’t shipping. Are you coming our way sometime? All but one of the poplars on the deck are too small to make pith-free 16/4. So I could only get maybe 12 pieces or so off of them. There will be more coming sometime. While we have a good bit of 5/4 and 8/4 that will make good turning blanks, we haven’t cut a lot of 16/4 specifically for turning blanks. We do have a few interesting pieces of 6×6 laying around. We had allready planned on cutting a lot of thick stock like mantels and turning stock out of this batch; and planned on cutting even more out of the next batch.

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Dirt Clod,

The best time for a trip to your area will be in mid October. As time gets closer I can firm up my plans with you. Should I use email directly to you rather than on this blog? I’ll need your address.

Ernest1

-- I started out with nothing, and still have most of it..... Ernest 1.

Ernest1,

PM sent.

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hey dirtclod what have you got already milled up, I may have to make a trip up top see you, I am in Owensboro so the trip isn’t too bad for me.

-- Steve Phelps

Sure would like to see this posted over on http://woodworkerslist.com/ as well as any tools for sale, just got the site up about 6 weeks ago.

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Hold onto about bft for me to fill my F-150 1/2 ton I will pick it up on my nex trip MD.

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Building horse stalls inside my pole barn.
I am looking for rough cut 1” x 6” x 10’ or 8’ or 6’
used to line the walls, nothing fancy, just tough and rugged.
horses won’t mind, as long as they can scratch their butt’s on it. LOL
Anything you might have? Prices?
I am in Shelbyville, Ky. Will pick up

Steve,
We currently have:
Hard (sugar) maple, red oak, white oak, walnut, hickory, cedar, tupelo (black gum), sycamore, sassafras, cherry and maybe a few others I can’t remember. On deck are walnut, tulip poplar, red oak and hornbeam. We’ll be harvesting cherry, walnut, white oak, ash, tulip poplar, red oak, cedar, sweet gum, along with small amounts of paulonia, apple, peach, dogwood, hornbeam and many others.

Jim915,
We have ~1000 bf of 4/4 random width red and white oak that was left by a neighbor. He was supposed to provide a trailer to load it on while we were cutting. We finished the job and still had no trailer. So we decided to do him a favor and temporarily sticker it until one showed up. That was early in the spring. But it’s still sitting at the mill site exposed to the weather so it’s now rough looking. I would like to get rid of it but we need to contact our neighbor and get him to agree to it. I’ll send you a PM with some contact info. As far as stock goes. Most of what we have is random widths and I feel sure there’s not enough 1×6 in stock to do a horse stall. But we have logs and will be getting more so there’s a way…

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Sounds good. I will stay in touch. I may even want to pick up some randoms just to get a start. I am doing this project mostly by myself (horse stalls) so it’s just, baby steps, i take each day. Please send Contact info thanks Jim

Help me with the terminology here. I Understand ”~1000 bf” means a thousand board foot plus or minus. What is the 4/4 part? 4” by 4”?

four 1/4’s of an inch. 4/4 is one inch thick.

Jim915,
I sent you a PM this morning. If you missed it look top-center of this window and you should see a message notification. You can also check into the My Lumberjocks drop-down menu on the top right for new message count and access to your messages.

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Hey dirtclod could you send me a price list.

-- Steve Phelps

You can find a price list earlier in this thread…prices are negotiable.

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