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Forum topic by DTrak posted 12-01-2015 07:45 PM 1186 views 0 times favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-01-2015 07:45 PM

Are some screwdriver bits less prone to stripping than others (the bit being stripped I mean, not the screw)? Does it matter what they are made of? I would be happy to pay more if it meant the bit was less prone to stripping.
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Dan


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#1 posted 12-01-2015 07:51 PM

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#2 posted 12-01-2015 08:02 PM

Or, you can purchase the shanks from Lee Valley and make your own.

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#3 posted 12-01-2015 08:08 PM

Do you refer to bits used in a drill/driver? If so, the Wiha brand are top notch, I switched to them looking for better ones as well. I have some Milwaukee Shock wave buts that seem to be pretty good, and for square drive the ones McFeelys sells are very good. McFeely’s phillips bits are also pretty good.

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#4 posted 12-01-2015 08:46 PM

Overall it is best to go to square drive or spline drive in any quality. The worst drive design ever conceived is the Phillips. Dewalt makes pretty good bits for mass consumer bits. Sears is advertising diamond coated bits; they should be better. And, one last tip, dip any bit in rubbing compound and it will grip better.

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#5 posted 12-01-2015 09:08 PM

To avoid cam out use Spax screws :)

or GRKs

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#6 posted 12-01-2015 09:18 PM

I’ll go with “star” drive bits/screws any day. I find that I’ll lose the bit (even the cheap ones that I buy in the 25 packs from Menard’s) before I wear them out.

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#7 posted 12-02-2015 12:09 AM

This has been very educational. I didnt know there was such a thing as square, spline or star. I will give those a try when I can, but I already have a lot of phillips heads. Great tip on Wiha and Spax screws. I hadnt thought much about the quality of the screws either.

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#8 posted 12-02-2015 01:52 AM

if ya happen to try one of the other drive styles before using up your phillips drive screws you may end up with a bunch of phillips drive screws collecting dust.

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#9 posted 12-02-2015 02:03 AM



if ya happen to try one of the other drive styles before using up your phillips drive screws you may end up with a bunch of phillips drive screws collecting dust.

- tomsteve

You betcha. After finding square and star drive screws and bits, they are the only things I use for woodworking projects. Slot and phillips screws get used now only for metal work a/o replacements to match existing screws.

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#10 posted 12-02-2015 04:53 PM

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#11 posted 12-02-2015 05:00 PM

I always liked Klein screwdrivers. However, for power driving the square drive screws are the best. Both the bits and the screws hold up well. However, I like the looks of the phillips head better if it shows.

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#12 posted 12-02-2015 08:33 PM



I always liked Klein screwdrivers. However, for power driving the square drive screws are the best. Both the bits and the screws hold up well. However, I like the looks of the phillips head better if it shows.

Nothing wrong with the appearance of a star drive! Think about the concept…tighter recesses on the screws=less slippage (and requires you to engage the driver properly in order to make it work). Bits last longer and fewer “throw-aways” is my experience. But like many, I have a regular hardware store in my shop. Will keep trying to use up the Philips screws but my rule there is to buy bulk packs of #2 bits and replace them upon any sign of wear. Haven’t found any difference between brands (DeWalt/whatever Menard’s sells).

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#13 posted 12-02-2015 08:57 PM

Phillips bits wear out, this is normal. Years ago I cleaned out a hardware store of 40-50 various length phillips #2 bits. Recently came across a massive collection of screws from 3/4 up to 3 inches. Not bad a bad free find. I do have several other kinds, depending on the job I use them. To each his own. LOL

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#14 posted 12-03-2015 12:07 PM

There are advantages to all types of screw heads and driver. For the woodworker, the specialized star, Torkz, and square drive have their place. Remember, that many products are made with the idea that many people don’t have those drivers in their tool box. I was looking at a portable heater. I was going to take it apart to clean the fuzzies off the fan blade. The screws had a triangle screw head. How many of you have a triangle driver bit?
FWIW, I got some combo drivers for my Ryobi drill- they were colored purple. Got them at a flea market too room. Don’t know who made them but the were a decent quality compared to some I have had.
Edit: Noticed the comment about Klein tools. I worked in the electrical department of Lowe’s many years ago. They were the only tools that professionals asked for by name. The average person went to the tool area and bought whatever was on the peg hook.

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#15 posted 12-03-2015 12:20 PM

Screw types are like mousetraps, everyone is always trying to patent a better design.

I find that each type seems to have a good use in certain conditions. I wouldn’t put anything but phillips on my pickguards on my guitars since that is kind of a tradition.
I find that phillips on the drywall screws work great for blind holes that will be plugged.
My cutters on my spiralhead on my planer, the blades are held on with torx.

I use square a lot when I do Kreg, but find that they don’t work that well in other situations. I’ve rounded over my share of square bits, but they seem to work well with Kreg angles.

I like the Milwaukee shockwave phillips bits – they are relatively easy to find in any big box store, have a decent lifespan. I know there are better, but also more expensive.

When I saw the Sears Diamond Bit set on TV I thought maybe for the first time in over 20 years I might buy something Craftsman, until I saw them up close in a Kmart. Was not impressed with the very thin coating of “diamond” on the tips, and the handles were just so-so. Passed.

The only bit/screw I universally hate is the straight…
Had my fill of those back in the 80’s when I refinished furniture and antiques.

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