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Dean_Morrell

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01-02-2010 07:19 PM

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So I’ve got this Hitachi C10FL. (I know, I know… I’ll never do it again.) I’m looking for a replacement fence system. I’ve got my eye on the Delta T2 30” as shown here: http://www.tools-plus.com/delta-36-t30.html

Opinions? I’m open to anything from how to make the stock fence behave, to if this price is a good one, to if this fence is worth while, to better ideas. Please help me spend my money wisely!

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#1 posted 01-02-2010 07:37 PM

My first question is: Why?

As a former C10FL owner, one of things that I thought was fairly decent was the fence. I’ve gone the route of upgrading a contractor saw. In my former life, I put an Incra fence on a Sears saw (along with machined pulleys and a link belt). That worked out pretty well.

My biggest issue with contractor saws is getting the blade aligned to the mitre slots. The Hitachi has a major failing in this regard. It can’t be fitted with PALs (a really clever means for micro-adjusting the trunion), which make this task pretty painless. Mine absolutely refused to get perfectly aligned. It got pretty close, but that just wasn’t good enough for me.

I sold the Hitachi on Ebay, got along with my ShopSmith for about a year and caught the close-out sale on the Grizzley 1023SL for $795. It comes with a Shop Fox Beisemeyer clone which is pretty darned good considering the price.

Regarding the Delta fence, that is certainly a good deal. But I’ll bet that you will need to drill and tap holes on the C10FL in order to get it to fit correctly as it’s strictly metric.

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#2 posted 01-02-2010 07:43 PM

I’ve always thought the T2 is one of the better values in an aftermarket fence. It’s often in the $150-$175 range. If the price is much over $200, I’d be looking at Shop Fox or Vega fences too. A fence update is a good move IMHO.

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#3 posted 01-02-2010 07:47 PM

A fair question. I’m using this to make furniture and the fence has issues. It rides parallel to the blade and the miter slots, but as soon as I lock it, the far end toes in towards the blade. What’s more, the face of the fence has a bow in it working from the table upwards along it’s face. That means when I 3” stock I get a shorter cut than when running 1/4” material.

Maybe I’m just lucky with this saw. It came out of the box with the trunnion perfectly aligned. The only thing off on the adjustments was the bevel stop at 90. It was about 1/24th too much, but the dust seems to have made up the difference.

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#4 posted 01-02-2010 08:04 PM

Hi Dean I also had this saw. I up graded it last month. The fence can be adjusted in but it takes a little playing with. You will find two hex ( machine bolts ) bolts about 2” from each other on top of the fence right in front of the lock handle of the fence. these will loosen so you can make an adjustment. I us an indicator and run it in the miter slot to see if it is parallel. Check it first before doing any loosening. Once you start making an adjustment it can become time consuming because it is hit or miss. The best I could do is 004” form front to back with an indicator. Repeatability isn’t to bad. Also check the blade to the miter slot before you start. Mine was really close and I didn’t have to make an adjustement (thank goodness).

I made a zero clearance insert out of wood. If you hav’nt allready you might want to. It makes a differance. I also made a crosscut sled. The miter that came with the saw is pinned together and the pin loosened up and made the miter unusable. A crosscut sled made doing crosscuts much better. One upgrade that I made that made this saw run so much better was a blade stiffener from forrest. Your saw will run so much smoother and quieter. Use a good blade with the forrest stiffener and you will think you are running a different saw. This upgrade is really worth the money.

For me Dean, I didn’t want to spend the money on a new fence. I made the upgrades I could and it made for a better saw. I hope my post will help. Ron

-- Ron, Michigan

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#5 posted 01-02-2010 09:06 PM

To be sure, there are things to like about the C10FL. It’s fairly-priced and the general fit and finish of the saw is better than most. And I certainly did some good work with it. I’m now on my fourth table saw (I count and still have my ShopSmith, a purchase I don’t regret for various complicated reasons).

But when I think back on the interim purchases I’ve made along the way to my current setup, I realize that it’s often more expensive in both time and money to go with a lesser solution. For example, I’ve spent a total of $400 dollars on dado blades on my way to the Forrest I recently purchased. Granted, it’s often impossible to make the larger initial investment and the alternative is having nothing. But these days I try to be more careful when that little voice in my head says “don’t worry, think of the money you’ll save…”

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#6 posted 01-03-2010 05:00 PM

Don’t get me started on dado sets. I’m happy with my Oshlun… I’m happy with my Oshlun… I’m happy with my Oshlun.

I’m relatively happy with the saw, just not the stock miter gauge (replaced with an Incra), or the stock fence. I’m happiest with the motor housed internally. No chance for finger pinching—and with little kids around safety is always my first concern.

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#7 posted 04-11-2012 04:56 PM

A late comer but I to have this saw and am going through the fence issues, just purchaed the Delta T30

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#8 posted 04-11-2012 05:16 PM

I have the Delta T-2 on my old Craftsman Contractor saw, and love it. Would definitely recommend it.

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#9 posted 04-11-2012 06:00 PM

My Grizz 0444Z has the Shop Fox fence with which I’m very pleased.
Bill

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#10 posted 04-11-2012 08:06 PM

T2 is the best bang for the buck. Awsome fence.

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#11 posted 04-11-2012 08:51 PM

I can’t help but wonder if for the cost of the fence and possible shipping @$250 give or take that you might be better off buying a used cabinet saw with a good fence, some of them going for $400-$600 considering your saw cost around the $500 range new and now used would sell for half that or a little more you could have a more substantial saw and a better fence for around the same money.

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#12 posted 04-11-2012 09:18 PM

The tools-plus cost I’m seeing is $153. Oddly I just bought the T2 30” a few weeks ago from tools-plus for $148 + $6.50 shipping (CT to VA). It’s a great value.
I posted a review of the T2 and the installation process for a Ridgid 4511 TS having a granite top. Read my review and subtract out the stuff related to the granite top.

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#13 posted 04-12-2012 12:11 AM

Does the $153 for the T2 include free s/h?

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#14 posted 04-12-2012 01:26 AM

I have the Delta fence, too. It’s well worth the money.

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#15 posted 04-12-2012 10:40 AM

I, too, have that saw. So far it’s been okay. I’m pretty satisfied with the fence.

Did you buy or make your zero clearance inserts? I haven’t done either yet. Looking for ideas.

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