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Forum topic by 716 posted 11-25-2015 07:28 PM 782 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-25-2015 07:28 PM

What would be a better fine particle option for a 2HP Harbor Freight dust collector ?
1. Jet has a sale for their 1000 CFM Air Filtration System this Black Friday, so you can get it for around $258
2. Replace the stock 5mk filter with Wynn 0.5 mk filter for around $115 to $177 depending on the option.

My shop is in the garage with, as usual, a lot of not woodworking related junk such as boxes with Christmas Decorations, some suitcases with stuff, bicycles etc etc. The main goal to prevent fine dust from setting on those items.

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#1 posted 11-25-2015 11:06 PM

The Wynn is going to trap smaller particles. I don’t know the filter specs on the Jet but I am guessing the inside filter is 1 micron, the Wynn is .5. The jet will catch things that are floating in the air. The wynn would help your tools from throwing some of that dust back into the air by keeping it inside the collector.

If only one of them is an option then I would choose the Wynn for your DC. Collect as much as possible at the tool before it gets airborne.

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#2 posted 11-25-2015 11:38 PM

Makes sense, moreover such combination is cheaper.

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#3 posted 11-26-2015 12:18 AM

Sorry, but I’m not sold on really low micron pleated filters. They are expensive and probably clog up faster. I have a 1 micron felt bag on mine, and thats plenty compared to what most Dc’s use to come with not all that long ago, which was a 30 micron. Plus I don’t care what anyone says, your not going to capture every spec of dust, no matter what machine your hooking it up too. I won’t even mention what I think of HF.

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#4 posted 11-26-2015 12:27 AM

I would do both. If funds prevent both right now… I would go with the Jet air filter. Reason being is that most likely your dust collection system is not getting 90%+ of the dust you create in your shop so even if you get the wynn filter to capture the fine particles you’re still going have dust in the air. That’s what the Jet air filter would do.

I have all three. The harbor freight dust collector, jet air filter, and the wynn filter. My dust collection system is not designed well. I use the hf dc primarily for my table saw. I built a hood for my miter saw which captures the dust but the dust can still linger around. Pretty much everything else is hooked up to shop vacs. My routers… just spew dust all over the place.

The wynn filter is great, it has cut down on dust escaping the hf dc tremendously. What has made the biggest difference in my basement shop is the Jet air filter. I use that in conjunction with a fan blowing out the window and after 10-15 minutes I cannot smell dust anymore.

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#5 posted 11-26-2015 12:30 AM

So what’s wrong with HF ?

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#6 posted 11-26-2015 12:33 AM

OMG, yeah, nothing spells how serious you are about dust collection then buying a Harbor Freight DC. NOT !

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#7 posted 11-26-2015 12:34 AM


So what s wrong with HF ?

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#8 posted 11-26-2015 12:51 AM


I would do both. If funds prevent both right now… I would go with the Jet air filter. Reason being is that most likely your dust collection system is not getting 90%+ of the dust you create in your shop so even if you get the wynn filter to capture the fine particles you re still going have dust in the air. That s what the Jet air filter would do.

I have all three. The harbor freight dust collector, jet air filter, and the wynn filter. My dust collection system is not designed well. I use the hf dc primarily for my table saw. I built a hood for my miter saw which captures the dust but the dust can still linger around. Pretty much everything else is hooked up to shop vacs. My routers… just spew dust all over the place.

The wynn filter is great, it has cut down on dust escaping the hf dc tremendously. What has made the biggest difference in my basement shop is the Jet air filter. I use that in conjunction with a fan blowing out the window and after 10-15 minutes I cannot smell dust anymore.

- InstantSiv


Thanks, that is the answer I was looking for, from someone who uses such setup. So after filtering with both DC+Wynn and Jet air filter do you find that dust still settles on surfaces through the shop ?

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#9 posted 11-26-2015 01:26 AM

I have the HF dc, it’s my first dc and I don’t have it plumed all through my garage yet so I can’t compared it to similar models. Seems to have good suction, I have the thien baffle or whatever it’s called which works pretty well too. Unless I was going to get a high dollar and bigger 3hp+ or a cyclone dc, I’d go with the HF, probably just a cheaper clone of the other 2hp models out there.

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#10 posted 11-26-2015 02:33 AM

I have the harbor freight DC and the Wynn filter, it’s a very cost effective combo that most people are generally very happy with. If you throw a thein style baffle on the bottom it does a surprisingly decent job of keeping the filter clean, I vacuum mine out about every 4 full bags. A cyclone setup would do better but decreases some suction and takes some ingenuity to rig up.

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#11 posted 11-26-2015 03:00 AM



Welcome back sawsucker, glad to see your getting an internet connection from that bridge under which you dwell.
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#12 posted 11-26-2015 03:45 AM



Sorry, but I m not sold on really low micron pleated filters. They are expensive and probably clog up faster. I have a 1 micron felt bag on mine, and thats plenty compared to what most Dc s use to come with not all that long ago, which was a 30 micron. Plus I don t care what anyone says, your not going to capture every spec of dust, no matter what machine your hooking it up too. I won t even mention what I think of HF.

- SawSucker

I do not think anyone thinks they are going to collect all of the dust. The question is asked because the HF has a 5 micron filter bag and it is not catching as much as the OP would like. That set up can be improved and I am guessing that is the plan.

BTW, than buying a Harbor Freight DC.

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#13 posted 11-26-2015 04:15 AM


I do not think anyone thinks they are going to collect all of the dust. The question is asked because the HF has a 5 micron filter bag and it is not catching as much as the OP would like. That set up can be improved and I am guessing that is the plan. BTW, than buying a Harbor Freight DC.
- joey502

Well I know that Bill Pentz pushes dust collection for health reasons, and he does have followers. As far as HF having a 5 micron bag, I’d believe that as much as their 2 hp rating. I’ve seen a HF 2 hp DC up close locally, and the bag is very thin compared to any other manufacturers dust bag. Plus I wouldn’t be surprised if HF is still using a plastic impeller. There are far better economical options then buying a HF DC. But who cares ? It’s insanity, there are A LOT of brainwashed folks out there. More then I care to deal with.

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#14 posted 11-26-2015 03:18 PM

There are two issue to consider; airflow and filtering. I’ve read much of the information Bill Pentz has on his web site, and it makes sense. He seems knowledgeable, and his agenda appears to be trying to pass on information he has gathered while addressing dust collection for his own heath issues. Therefore I trust his conclusions.

He says a sub-micro filter is needed and that you need at least 1,000 CFM airflow AT THE TOOL. This requires a significantly higher no-load rating on the air mover. He concluded that with a well designed blower, you need a 3.5 HP system. Not common, so next up is 5 HP.

The high airflow is needed to achieve high air speeds at the tool. High air speed is needed to suck in the high speed particles being cast off be the cutting blade.

He recommends a cyclone separator followed by a filter.

He also recommends creating the dust outside if at all possible. Next, is to exhaust the dust collector outside. This avoids needing a fine filter.

Obviously, something is always better than nothing.

I’m new to woodworking, and have yet to invest in a dust collection system. But if I cut enough wood on a regular basis, I will bite the bullet and install a good DC system. The health issues appear to be very real, and it sure would be nice not to coat the shop with a layer of dust every time I use the table saw.

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#15 posted 11-26-2015 03:29 PM



OMG, yeah, nothing spells how serious you are about dust collection then buying a Harbor Freight DC. NOT !

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