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Forum topic by BigDaddy1966 posted 11-22-2015 05:35 AM 777 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BigDaddy1966

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11-22-2015 05:35 AM

I have now tried several remote outlets and everyone of them pops the breaker. My outlet is a dedicated 20amp breaker and outlet, the HF collector is suppose to be 14 amps and everything I have tried/found is 15amps max.

Any recommendations on what to do? Is it the collector or are there better remote options I am just not finding? I have looked at Rockler and Woodcraft but no luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am a member of the (To Lazy to do the “Bend and Snap” Every time I want to turn it on not to mention the 10 ft hike). :-)

I am new to Lumber Jocks and woodworking is this the place the cool kids hang out or is there a more popular site? Sorry Lumber Jocks Staff nothing personal, one can learn if one don’t ask.

Thank you

-- Brett Walker


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Tennessee

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#1 posted 11-22-2015 12:51 PM

If it is the 2HP model I think it is, the motor is rated at about 7.5 amps no load.
But hook up elbows, gates, hose and other restrictions, and it jumps fast to over 13 amps, according to many reviewers on their site.
Also, lots of complaints about motors burning out in short order, like less than a few months. Sounds like a poor motor and possibly under powered, which would cause it to over amp.

Also, is there a possibility that when you turn it on, you are still in a deadhead situation, where no flow is allowed for a few seconds, making the motor over amp?
Just a few thoughts…
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#2 posted 11-22-2015 01:02 PM

Yes, this is where the cool kids hang out. Welcome!

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hotbyte

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#3 posted 11-22-2015 01:27 PM

I’m using a 15amp remote I found at Lowe’s with no problems. Woodcraft and Rockler have a more expensive, heavier duty remote control. Search their sites for dust collector remote switch.

I can’t say I remember lots of complaints about the motors burning up. Biggest complaint I’ve seen is the power is overstated. Lots of them out there in service.

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#4 posted 11-22-2015 01:34 PM

I’m using a outdoor lighting remote from Lowes. No problems. BUT, mine is vented directly to the out side. I’m sure that puts far less strain on the system on start up.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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WoodNSawdust

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#5 posted 11-22-2015 01:39 PM

I have used the Long Ranger remote for a verity of duct collectors including the HF one with no problems.

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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BigDaddy1966

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#6 posted 11-22-2015 01:54 PM

Thank you for the input, I looked at the motor and it states on the side that it’s 14 amps so I believe the motor is ok at this point but will have it checked to confirm.

WoodNSawdust – I saw that one the other night and the only one I have found that states it will handle the higher amps for 110v so I guess I am off to PSI to order one unless there is some place else less expensive

Thanks again to everyone that responded

-- Brett Walker

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#7 posted 11-22-2015 01:55 PM

Are you using an extension cord? Has the outlet and breaker always been 20amp, or have you replaced either or both? Does the breaker trip without the use of the remote outlet?

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BigDaddy1966

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#8 posted 11-22-2015 02:03 PM

CFRANCE – No extension cord, I am using a 20 amp breaker and outlet with 12-3 wiring, the only thing that pops is the remote outlet. Based on the feedback I have been getting since the motor draws 14 amps and the remote outlets are rated at 15 amps it’s just the surge at start up tripping the outlet.

I found a real nice 3 pack of remote outlets at Costco but they are only rated at 15 amps and they were inexpensive if any one else is looking for them, assuming you have Costco in your area.

-- Brett Walker

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conifur

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#9 posted 11-22-2015 02:15 PM

I use this one on a Jet 1100 dust collector without a problem on a 20 amp circuit. But mine pulls 11 amps.
http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/woods-single-outlet-outdoor-remote-control/0000000045558

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#10 posted 11-22-2015 03:40 PM

If you’re handy (electrically) there is a better approach. You can get a 120V contactor and use the remote that you now have. You would probably have $20-$25 tied up in the whole thing, but it’s an industrial grade solution. The way it would work is you wire the contactor into the DC circuit (ceveral way to do this, using a receptacle and plug if you like). When switched on, the contactor will power the DC (noted the one I linked is a 30 amp contactor, plenty of oomph). The remote, in turn, will switch the coil in the contactor to turn the whole system on/off. I have this on my own DC (a 240V model) as well as one I use for my sprayer turbine (120V) and they really work well. If the remote does fail, you keep a $10 spare on hand and simply change them out….I’ve done that 3 times on my DC. I keep dropping the fobs onto the concrete; they don’t like that.

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#11 posted 11-22-2015 03:49 PM

Startup amperage for an induction motor is pretty much always higher than rated amperage (Full load amperage).

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#12 posted 11-22-2015 04:49 PM



If you re handy (electrically) there is a better approach. You can get a 120V contactor and use the remote that you now have. You would probably have $20-$25 tied up in the whole thing, but it s an industrial grade solution. The way it would work is you wire the contactor into the DC circuit (ceveral way to do this, using a receptacle and plug if you like). When switched on, the contactor will power the DC (noted the one I linked is a 30 amp contactor, plenty of oomph). The remote, in turn, will switch the coil in the contactor to turn the whole system on/off. I have this on my own DC (a 240V model) as well as one I use for my sprayer turbine (120V) and they really work well. If the remote does fail, you keep a $10 spare on hand and simply change them out….I ve done that 3 times on my DC. I keep dropping the fobs onto the concrete; they don t like that.

- Fred Hargis

I do this as well. Adds a little more work but you can then use a remote to power a 110v dc or a 220v if you get one down the road.

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BigDaddy1966

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#13 posted 01-10-2016 01:24 AM

UPDATE – I put the Long Ranger on a month ago and it has been flawless, it was a little more money but worth it. Thanks woodandsawdust!!!

-- Brett Walker

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#14 posted 01-10-2016 04:38 PM

Haven’t fired up my HF DC yet. I just started building out a modified system. However, from the specs I saw, this is the remote I’ve got on order which should handle the 2HP DC: PSI Woodworking LR110-3 110-Volt Long Ranger Dust Collector Switch by PSI Woodworking

-- bkseitz, Washington "if everything is going well, you've obviously overlooked something"

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