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Forum topic by nerdbot posted 11-20-2015 08:06 PM 1251 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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nerdbot

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11-20-2015 08:06 PM

Hi guys,

With the small and random stock available during the upcoming Lee Valley Cyber Monday sale, I wanted to do a bit of research ahead of time so I could have a couple items in mind to when the sale goes live. Not to mention I have a couple LV gift cards to burn…

I do most of my work with power tools with final finessing done with a few of the hand tools I have. However, I am starting to get into more traditional joinery – currently mortise and tenons but eventually dovetails. Here’s what I currently have in the way of hand tools:

From Harbor Freight:
- 12” flexible flush cut saw
- Miter box set with 13.5” backsaw
- Harbor freight chisel set

From a yard sale a couple years ago, I picked up and refurbed:
- Bailey no. 5
- Stanley/Bailey no. 4ish (I think… it’s bevel down and about 9.5” long and 2.5” wide)
- Standard block plane

And from last year’s Lee Valley sale, I picked up the Bevel Up Smoother plane.

Update: I forgot to mention I have the MK II honing guide and 4 different grits of DMT stones (Coarse, Fine, Extra Fine, and Extra Extra fine)

I refurbed the Bailey/Stanley planes when I first got into woodworking, and they worked well enough, but I didn’t know just how well they were supposed to work until I got the LV plane last year. So, nowadays, I use the LV plane for just about any planing work and the block plane for rougher things like chamfers and removing dried up glue.

On my to-build-list for next year is a better bench for hand tool work. All my workbenches right now are plastic fold up style benches with not a lot of weight to them, so they wobble quite a bit when I do even a little bit of planing. I also don’t have any vices of any kind yet. I’ve made do with creative use of wooden handscrew clamps and my other clamps.

I’m most likely going to get the cabinet scraper. Then depending on what’s available during the sale, maybe some mortising chisels or a router plane. I was thinking of a shoulder plane for cleaning up my tenons, but I saw a few articles saying they’re a bit overrated. I think a better handsaw would be good, but without a good work bench to hold material, I’m not really sure how useful it will be until I build the bench. Can you guys suggest anything else I might want to keep an eye out for? Thanks!


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bobasaurus

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#1 posted 11-20-2015 08:58 PM

You’ll probably want a longer plane, jack or bigger, for jointing edges and truing panels. Their low angle jack plane is extremely nice. Quality chisels would be good as well, and hand saws.

-- Allen, Colorado

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AandCstyle

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#2 posted 11-21-2015 12:08 AM

If you are moving toward hand tools, you might consider sharpening supplies, e.g. the MK II sharpening jig, Shapton stones, DMT stones, etc. I like my medium shoulder plane from LV. You could also use a small block plane for tenons that need a bit of finessing. Basically, the possibilities are endless. I would think about what I might need for my very next project and buy that. Grow into it, don’t go into it.

-- Art

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nerdbot

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#3 posted 11-21-2015 12:59 AM

Thanks, Art, for reminding me – I forgot to mention I have the MK II honing guide and 4 different grits of DMT stones (Coarse, Fine, Extra Fine, and Extra Extra fine). I updated the original post. Thanks for the input guys!

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ElChe

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#4 posted 11-21-2015 02:31 AM

Lee Valley dovetail and tenon saw? Or a bad axe. Or a wenzloff. Bad axe and wenzloff are tool porn.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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sikrap

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#5 posted 11-21-2015 04:32 PM

If it were me, I would look very seriously at the rabbeting block plane. It will work great for finessing tenons as well as shaving end grain or any other block plane tasks. personally, I don’t thin shoulder planes are overrated at all. I have the LV medium and I use it quite a bit. I would forego the cabinet scraper and instead use hand held card scrapers. My opinion is that card scrapers allow much more control.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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WoodNSawdust

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#6 posted 11-21-2015 04:46 PM

How does the LV sale compare the their prices at The Woodworking Show? At a couple of hundred dollars for a hand plane I want to get the best discount I possibly can.

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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Tim

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#7 posted 11-21-2015 05:56 PM



If it were me, I would look very seriously at the rabbeting block plane. It will work great for finessing tenons as well as shaving end grain or any other block plane tasks. personally, I don t thin shoulder planes are overrated at all. I have the LV medium and I use it quite a bit. I would forego the cabinet scraper and instead use hand held card scrapers. My opinion is that card scrapers allow much more control.

- sikrap

Was going to say the same thing as Dave about the rabbeting block plane and cabinet scraper. The only real reason to pony up for a cabinet scraper vs card scrapers is if you have a large area to work or you have arthritis. You can avoid burning your thumbs with a card scraper if you get in the habit of using a little bit different spot on the scraper each time. I don’t use my shoulder plane a lot, but you need at least something to clean up tenons and such. A chisel can work of course, but requires skill. Just depends on how much of that type of thing you do.

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nerdbot

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#8 posted 11-21-2015 06:46 PM

WoodNSawdust – I haven’t been to a wood show so I don’t know what their pricing is like, but I saved about $70 on my smoother plane last year. Supposedly they are “factory seconds” but their QA tolerances must be much higher than mine because I couldn’t find any imperfections in mine.

Sikrap – Sorry, maybe “overrated” was a bit strong – but the few things I read mentioned things like chisels (or better sawing technique) can do just as good of a job. Although, one thing I do like about the shoulder planes is that I only need one, versus the rabbeting block plane (Skew Block Plane on LV’s site, right?) you and Tim mentioned have a left and right version – which I assume means ideally you eventually want both?

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WellExecuted

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#9 posted 11-23-2015 09:50 PM

What does LV usually have involved in their Cyber Monday sale?

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BikerDad

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#10 posted 11-24-2015 12:08 AM

Card Scraper Set.
Spokeshaves – Concave is the one that does something few other tools do. Flat is handy also, but not as handy. Round is very specialized, but invaluable when you need it.
Router Plane.
Medium Shoulder Plane.
Coping/Fret Saw. The Knew Concepts saws can’t be beat, except on price.

Wonder Pup Set. The Wonder Pup and Wonder Dog are like magic. Probably my most used Veritas tools.
Saddle Square – also used A LOT. You can use the Center Head from a some combination squares as a saddle square.
Dovetail Marker(s).

-- I'm happier than a tornado in a trailer park! Grace & Peace.

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nerdbot

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#11 posted 11-24-2015 03:06 AM

WellExecuted, the inventory changes each year – as far as their pricier hand tools, it’s whatever they consider “factory seconds”, slight imperfections in the product. But, I have yet to find what they considered “imperfect” with the plane I bought at last year’s sale.

Thanks for the suggestions, BikerDad!

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MARCIOCRM

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#12 posted 11-30-2015 07:00 PM

Pretty nice handplane selection, but I arrived late.
Who are the winners?

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nerdbot

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#13 posted 12-01-2015 12:59 AM

I grabbed the router plane and the low angle jack.

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MARCIOCRM

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#14 posted 12-02-2015 08:33 PM



I grabbed the router plane and the low angle jack.

- nerdbot


Congratulations lucky boy!

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John

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#15 posted 12-04-2015 01:30 AM

#6 foreplane here. I got on the site at 4 am, and I missed a lot of deals.

-- I measured once, cut twice, and its still too short...

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