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GMman

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12-26-2009 09:50 PM

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I am not sure but I think that in the US Robertson screws are not used if so I don’t know why. Myself it is all I use they are to me the best screws to use, they never strip and you can get 3 different head size.


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#1 posted 12-26-2009 10:43 PM

In the USA, most hardware stores only have slotted and philiips. Woodcraft and Rockler, et al, carry the Robertson screw, and that’s all I use.

Actually, the big box stores also carry those yellow and green decking screws, they used to be square drives, but now they’ve changed them to a star drive, and they are terrible, they strip out all the time. I helped my son build his deck last spring, and those things really were terrible. I buiilt my own deck 4 years ago using only the square (Robertson) drive, and it was wonderful.

In Canada, they’ve had the Robertson’s since I can remember.

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#2 posted 12-26-2009 11:07 PM

A philips if you strip the head you’re done even very hard to take it out.
On your deck Padre if you need to remove one board with a robertson is no problem they just come out easy no stipping.

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#3 posted 12-26-2009 11:09 PM

The Robertson screw was invented by a Canadian, Philips was invented by an American. I have always heard that is why alot of Americans do not use Robertson head screws.

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#4 posted 12-26-2009 11:22 PM

Padre’s experience is exactly the opposite of mine.

As a professional I use lots of screws on a daily or weekly basis. I find the torx or star drives to be better than the square drive screws. It may be a brand issue. My star drives rarely break or strip out.

The square and star drives are both superior in my opinion to phillips head screws.

Both of these types of screws are more expensive at the time of purchase but their driving characteristics and reliability more than make up for the upfront cost.

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#5 posted 12-26-2009 11:28 PM

not a ton of experience but bought bits—all stiles at different places. What I bought at the lumber yard rang like real hard steel when jingled together. Others sounded like soft nickel. Maybe it is partly the construction material. Also find diffence in screws stripping out—big box store seem to strip more often. Just noticed thought maybe others had as well.
I like the square drive and star best.

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#6 posted 12-26-2009 11:44 PM

I’ve been buying all my screws from McFeeley’s for years. Never use anything else. They’re a little pricey, but top quality.

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#7 posted 12-27-2009 12:17 AM

I tore off an old pressure treated deck last summer. The framing was in great shape so I redecked it with new pressure treated 5/4. The Menard’s big box had all shapes and sizes of the square “Robertson” decking screws. After using those, I wouldn’t go back to anything else. The year before, I used #10 S.S. “Robertsons” when I built a floating pier, and I snapped a couple screws in half at the threads, but the square head never budged. (and did it with an 18 volt cordless drill to boot) The combination of 18 volt drills and square head drives can break your wrist. LOL

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#8 posted 12-27-2009 12:28 AM

The Robertson head is actually older than the Phillips head. Robertson was a Canadian. The main reason the US uses Phillips is that Robertson refused to give Henry Ford control over his invention. A few years later when Phillips came along he went along with Ford and the Robertson was quickly forgotten in the US. No doubt Robertson is older and better but that has nothing to do with success in the corporate world.

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#9 posted 12-27-2009 12:42 AM

You see a lot of torx on vehicles every bolt or srews is all torx which as a very good head.

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#10 posted 12-27-2009 02:44 AM

I’ve been using square drive screws for years. Lowes and Home Depot both carry some but for real selection I go to McFeely. Of course anyone who uses the Kreg system for pocket hole attachments is familar with square drive screws.

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#11 posted 12-27-2009 03:07 AM

I started using the square drive Highpoint screws Woodcraft sells. They sure are better than the junk I used to buy from HD

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#12 posted 12-27-2009 03:20 AM

I bought a box of Robertson’s from McFeely’s many years ago. I put down my red oak shop floor with them. No strips, no breaks, no problem.

-- Tony

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#13 posted 12-27-2009 04:43 AM

red robbie anyday, hands down here….drive em like nothing with my impact gun…and when it comes to framing houses, we use screwguns on the subfloors with robbies rather than phillies just because the gun catches easier to it and drives it without letting the screw go

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#14 posted 12-27-2009 05:26 AM

Count me in the McFeely’s camp, father in law recommended them and once I used them the days of going to the big box for some crappy screws that twist in two were over.

Also from McFeely’s I bought a tub of Akempucky…which is a little butter tub of their screw lube. I expect it is just beeswax and a little oil to keep it softer – but it works great!

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#15 posted 12-27-2009 05:38 AM

Once I tried McFeely’s, I’ve never gone back. I find the drivers wear out kind of fast, then they start camming out, but they still beat Phillips and slotted any day.

I love McFeely’s “Pro Max” screws – specifically designed for dimensioned lumber.

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