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wmgworks

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11-16-2015 10:43 PM

I am just starting to build a workshop (the biggest power tool I have right now is a circular saw). I’m asking for lots of gift cards for Christmas so I can start buying tools. But I was wondering…. do you guys see a lot of great deals on Craigslist and eBay right after Christmas where people are selling their perfectly good old stuff because they got a new one for Christmas?

-- Butchering wood since 2015


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Nicky

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#1 posted 11-17-2015 04:34 PM

Although their could be deals to be had it’s not been my experience that their is a correlation. Ebay was much better a few years back where I found a lot of hand tools at reasonable prices.

You’ll find lots of gems on craigslist. You should start out with a prioritized list of tools you want. Then exercise patience, waiting for a good deal. Don’t settle for something less then you want. My last craigslist purchase was for a framing nail gun. Been looking for a while and finally found one. Great deal.

-- Nicky

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wmgworks

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#2 posted 11-17-2015 04:39 PM



Although their could be deals to be had it s not been my experience that their is a correlation. Ebay was much better a few years back where I found a lot of hand tools at reasonable prices.

You ll find lots of gems on craigslist. You should start out with a prioritized list of tools you want. Then exercise patience, waiting for a good deal. Don t settle for something less then you want. My last craigslist purchase was for a framing nail gun. Been looking for a while and finally found one. Great deal.

- Nicky

Thanks, Nicky. I check CL pretty frequently hoping to find that diamond in the rough. Some people are just plain silly on what they ask for stuff, though. Like you said – just gotta keep looking and be patient

-- Butchering wood since 2015

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WoodNSawdust

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#3 posted 11-17-2015 04:42 PM

As you build your shop think about the type of woodworking you do. This will help you determine if you need a tool and if you need the top of the line model or the Harbor Freight almost a reject model.

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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MT_Stringer

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#4 posted 11-17-2015 04:50 PM

I have not had any success using Craigslist. I seems to be due to several factors.

1) My locale (greater Houston area) – prices always seem high to me.
2) I am leery of the crime associated with CL…and the locale.
3) I have responded to several ads on CL, but never got a response.

Just my luck, I guess.

My only purchase was from a guy that had a lot of heavy duty industrial woodworking tools. Stuff from cabinet shops, etc. I bought a used Jet 6 inch joiner. It has been a good one.

I have a couple of suggestions…

Buy the best table saw you can afford. A really good one can last a life time. You will most likely use it on every project in some way.
A good router combo (fixed and plunge base) will also really be nice for projects.
A random orbital sander will be very useful.

Good luck with your new shop.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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wmgworks

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#5 posted 11-17-2015 04:51 PM

Oh I’m sure I will be completely happy in the beginning with entry level stuff. I also have some restrictions in my garage regarding power that will keep me at a certain level of tools (I’m in a townhouse complex and the garages share 1 120v 20amp circuit between 3-4 of them). For example, the top “expensive” item on my list is a table saw. I’m completely happy with something like a Ryobi brand, but I’ve read they don’t fit Dado stacks or something else like that. I forget. Anyway, the point is I’m not even considering something as expensive as a Dewalt contractor saw unless I find a smoking deal on it, know what I mean? And some people would consider THAT entry level!

-- Butchering wood since 2015

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wmgworks

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#6 posted 11-17-2015 04:53 PM



I have not had any success using Craigslist. I seems to be due to several factors.

1) My locale (greater Houston area) – prices always seem high to me.
2) I am leery of the crime associated with CL…and the locale.
3) I have responded to several ads on CL, but never got a response.

Just my luck, I guess.

My only purchase was from a guy that had a lot of heavy duty industrial woodworking tools. Stuff from cabinet shops, etc. I bought a used Jet 6 inch joiner. It has been a good one.

I have a couple of suggestions…

Buy the best table saw you can afford. A really good one can last a life time. You will most likely use it on every project in some way.
A good router combo (fixed and plunge base) will also really be nice for projects.
A random orbital sander will be very useful.

Good luck with your new shop.
Mike

- MT_Stringer

Thanks for the advice, Mike. Tablesaw on the top of the list

-- Butchering wood since 2015

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MT_Stringer

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#7 posted 11-17-2015 05:16 PM

The DeWalt compact portable DWE7480 does not allow the use of a dado stack because of the short arbor. However, I did manage to install two 7 1/4 inch circular saw blades and a couple of shims to produce a dado for 1/4 inch plywood bottoms in drawers. The plywood is actually thinner than 1/4 inch. The blades (and saw) worked great.

The drawback of the smaller portable saws is the table size. I bought the DWE7480 so I could use it onsite remodeling a kitchen. Ripping trim boards and filler strips, that sort of stuff.

Check out YouTube. Ron Paulk has numerous videos of work stations he has designed which incorporate the portable table saw. You might find them interesting and provide some inspiration for your shop.

BTW, I do my woodworking in a single car garage. What you see in these pics is all the room I have. Everything is on mobile bases or casters so I can move the tools around and set up for different operations. The workbench is rock solid. It doesn’t get moved! :-)

Here are a few of my pics…

DWE7480 table saw on matching stand

Short arbor

Dado set up for cutting drawer bottoms

Lots of drawer bottoms! :-)

When comparing a cabinet saw (Grizzly 1023) to the portable saws, there is a big difference in size!

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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wmgworks

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#8 posted 11-17-2015 05:39 PM

Thanks for the great comparison, Mike.

I’m in a somewhat similar situation in that we do have a two car garage, but I only get half of it ;D. We have to park a car in there still, as well as accommodate some storage of other items. I know I’m in a bit better shape than you, though, because i can pull the car out and have more room to work.

I absolutely plan on building my own workstation for the TS. Even at my rookie level I right away saw the issue with reduced table size. But that’s what we do, right? We BUILD stuff! As you’ve also said – everything on casters. I’m also trying to make stuff as unpermanent as I can in the beginning until I get a feel for the flow of my shop.

As an example of me trying to squeeze everything out of what I can get I already have plans to make a jig to turn my portable belt sander into a stationary one and to turn an old corded drill I have into a disc sander. I even contemplated building a table saw using a circular saw mounted underneath, but quickly saw the limitations thanks to the folks here.

-- Butchering wood since 2015

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dday

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#9 posted 11-17-2015 05:48 PM

Not sure of your situation, but I have followed the pattern of buy what I can afford now to get started , i.e. TS, Router, Drill Press and then upgrade as I see a need and my skills get better and gift the old one to my son who is starting off building his shop. In fact, a couple of times one of my sons has lucked into a great deal and I’m the one that gets the gift… :)

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MrUnix

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#10 posted 11-17-2015 05:51 PM

The DeWalt compact portable DWE7480 does not allow the use of a dado stack because of the short arbor. However, I did manage to install two 7 1/4 inch circular saw blades and a couple of shims to produce a dado for 1/4 inch plywood bottoms in drawers. The plywood is actually thinner than 1/4 inch. The blades (and saw) worked great.

The drawback of the smaller portable saws is the table size. I bought the DWE7480 so I could use it onsite remodeling a kitchen. Ripping trim boards and filler strips, that sort of stuff.

The other negative is the motor… it’s a universal screamer motor that is mostly plastic. Most, if not all portable saws are the same. It is fine for occasional and intermittent use on relatively light stuff, but will quickly be destroyed if you try to push it too hard.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#11 posted 11-17-2015 05:52 PM

Check out Amazon. they have an “outlet” that includes returned and clearance items. I’ve scored some nice deals on saw blades, router bits, and various hand tools. I’ve seen some pretty good deals on “like new” machines and power tools, but I’ve never ordered any.

Have you checked out pawn shops? Back when I was in the car tech business, I got a lot of my tools from pawn shops for 90% off retail.

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wmgworks

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#12 posted 11-17-2015 07:34 PM



Not sure of your situation, but I have followed the pattern of buy what I can afford now to get started , i.e. TS, Router, Drill Press and then upgrade as I see a need and my skills get better and gift the old one to my son who is starting off building his shop. In fact, a couple of times one of my sons has lucked into a great deal and I m the one that gets the gift… :)

- dday

This will probably be my strategy as well. One thing I’ve learned about myself is I get fired up about stuff and go all in right away just to have the passion fade (something tells me this time is different though). So I am OK using entry level stuff to prove to myself that I want to keep at it and upgrade as I need to

-- Butchering wood since 2015

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wmgworks

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#13 posted 11-17-2015 07:44 PM



Check out Amazon. they have an “outlet” that includes returned and clearance items. I ve scored some nice deals on saw blades, router bits, and various hand tools. I ve seen some pretty good deals on “like new” machines and power tools, but I ve never ordered any.

Have you checked out pawn shops? Back when I was in the car tech business, I got a lot of my tools from pawn shops for 90% off retail.

- Tedstor

There is a pawn shop nearby but I haven’t been in there yet. There is a guy down the street who calls himself a surplus store, though. He buys lots of stuff from estate sales (he may even run auctions) and then sells it out of his warehouse. I’ve bought a lot of stuff from him – mostly clamps, a small vise, a router and a couple hand saws I have yet to try out but they look good.

The problem with pawn shops and used dealers for me is when you need something right now they are not your best place to go. And they may never get in what you need. And, if you go in looking for something (like I did for a router) you may end up with a good deal, but should have just waited it out for something better (the router I bought has a 1/4” collet on it…). Their selection for a lot of items is very limited.

I have looked through the Amazon Warehouse for small things as well. I have a Prime Membership and it’s the best money ye spend every year.

-- Butchering wood since 2015

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