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11-16-2015 04:56 PM

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Hey LJ’s I’ve been spending my summer attempting to mill some logs with my chainsaw mill. Spent most of it learning chainsaw repair. GRRRRRR! I did manage to acquire some interesting wood.

I’m planning on using this personal lumber with interesting wood grains and patterns in a 1/4 inch veneer on a substrate.

When I ask a question LJ’s come back with some ideas I have not thought about.

If you have used this process with thicker (1/4 inch) veneers what have you found that works well with issues like expansion and contraction? And what have you found to be a strong and stable substrate? Glue preferences?

Thanks for your advice and ideas!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher


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#1 posted 11-16-2015 05:08 PM

MDF is a good substrate but for cabinet I rather use cabinet grade pressboard. I think as long as the substrate grain and veneer run the same direction there shouldn’t be any issues on expansion/contraction.

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#2 posted 11-16-2015 05:16 PM

Thanks,

Where do you buy your cabinet grade pressboard?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#3 posted 11-16-2015 05:21 PM

I have done table tops with Mahogany and Padauk, 1/4 inch thick veneers sliced on the band Saw laminated to baltic birch 3/4 thick. Your veneer will need to be perfectly dry since the plywood will not contract as much, To help the matter I used quartersawn veneer. MDF will have a tendency to warp if you do not treat the two faces the same way.

-- PJ

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#4 posted 11-16-2015 05:36 PM

Good advice!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#5 posted 11-16-2015 05:37 PM

Hi Tom
This site is very helpful for veneering questions and veneering supplies .

http://www.joewoodworker.com/veneering/veneering-tips.htm

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#6 posted 11-16-2015 05:45 PM

Thanks Jim!

I’ll check it out.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#7 posted 11-16-2015 06:48 PM

Thomas,
I believe HD has both 1/2” and 3/4” cabinet grade pressboard. I used to get it from RideOut.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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#8 posted 11-16-2015 07:21 PM

Checked HD and they don’t carry a “pressboard” Tempered hardboard? And MDF.

Thanks,

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#9 posted 11-16-2015 07:58 PM

Hey Tom. I used MDF for veneering many times with no problem if that helps. Mostly for box building. I bought most of it at Menards. They were cheaper than HD.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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#10 posted 11-16-2015 08:37 PM

1/4 inch is no longer a veneer and gluing it to a substrate that doesn’t move much could lead to a disaster. Study up on veering before you go any further with your project.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#11 posted 11-16-2015 11:14 PM

Dave Menards is my home away from home! LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#12 posted 11-16-2015 11:14 PM

AlaskaGuy,

Thanks for your input.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#13 posted 11-17-2015 02:19 AM

-- PJ

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#14 posted 11-17-2015 02:53 AM

ThomasChippendale,

First picture looks like 1/2 inch hardwood laminated to 3/4 ply? The 3/4 looks like a 5 ply? as opposed to 7 ply found in Baltic birch cabinet grade?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#15 posted 11-17-2015 12:34 PM

Yes, it is maple plywood, 3/4 inch with 1\4 + resawn mahogany on top and Padauk below pictures. The mahogany desk has not moved or warped at all in one year cycle. The Padauk has been cracking when installed unfinished going from my un-heated workspace to a winter, bone dry environment . I let it dry installed and unfinished several winter months and then filled the cracks and flooded with clear epoxy, he’s not moved since.

-- PJ

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