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Forum topic by seriousturtle posted 12-23-2009 02:33 PM 10748 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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seriousturtle

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12-23-2009 02:33 PM

I know there are other topics about slow setting glues, but I wanted to post this anyway. Recently I’ve lost 6 (that’s right, SIX) cutting boards due to my titebond II setting up before I was finished adjusting them in the clamps. Now I thought I was being efficient by trying to glue 3 at a time in some 48” parallel clamps and then using cauls on top to keep them relatively flat, since I don’t have many clamps. Well, twice now I’ve lost the whole bunch. Long story short, my wife talked me into spending some $ on some different glue. I’ve ordered both titebond III and titebond II extend, which supposedly has a longer open time. If anyone has compared the two, what are your observations. When they arrive in the mail, I will use both and let you know what I think.

~turtle

-- ~the turtle


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Kindlingmaker

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#1 posted 12-23-2009 04:21 PM

I use TB lll alot and there is no lingering with that glue at all. I too would like to try something that is as slow as I am!

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#2 posted 12-23-2009 04:39 PM

prep work for gluing is a must ,

either make a jig , ( back and end stops ,
with plastic cover ) ,
or some stand offs for the clamps .

have everything ready as a dry run .
no walking around the shop looking for a clamp or to
the scrap bin for a caul .

have everything ready and adjusted first ,

the glue is the last thing !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Rick Dennington

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#3 posted 12-23-2009 09:38 PM

Greetings: I use TiteBondIII alot, as do most of us, and I also use the TiteBond Extend, which is a little longer to get to glueing. But if I have a large panel or long wide top to glue up, and it’s going to be a big job, I reach for the “hide glue”.... You can take your time with this glue, cause it takes a while for it to start setting up. That’s why instrument maker use it so much…...slow setting…., and you got time to get the glue spread on good. Try it….... you might like it…. keep on keeping on !!!

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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closetguy

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#4 posted 12-24-2009 02:54 AM

I agree with patron. You should have everything sitting there and ready to clamp as soon as the glue gets spread on. I dry fit to make sure everything is flush, and if not, I will joint the edges to ensure a tight fit. With TB II or III, you have about five minutes to adjust for any slippage.

-- I don't make mistakes, only design changes....www.dgmwoodworks.com

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seriousturtle

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#5 posted 12-27-2009 04:57 PM

I thought about hide glue, but for cutting boards? I thought that hide glue will “unglue” with water? Is that the case? Is there a down side to TB extend?

~turtle

-- ~the turtle

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Doug S.

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#6 posted 12-27-2009 06:49 PM

The extend does give you a bit more open time but not much. I’ve used it for years and otherwise cant tell the difference between it and either tb2 or tb3 (except it may be just a tad thinner). There is a workong temperature difference though. I think the 2/3 will let you glue up at slightly colder temps. The extend does help on complicated glue-ups but you’ll still have to have everything laid out and ready to go.

-- Use the fence Luke

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seriousturtle

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#7 posted 12-29-2009 04:50 PM

Yeah, I’ve noticed the colder temps, which froze my glue on those lost cutting boards. My wife suggested that I move my glue-up stations into our tiny basement which I did. Pretty cramped down there, but at least its a place that I can continue my projects, at a minimal hassle.

~turtle

-- ~the turtle

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gmerteng

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#8 posted 12-29-2009 05:00 PM

I have used gorilla glue for cutting boards, you have 20 minutes of working time.

-- Mert,Oshkosh WI,

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LesB

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#9 posted 12-30-2009 09:36 PM

According to an article I read on TB III it does not set up properly below 47* F, however the cooler the room temperature the slower it sets.
I find Gorilla type urethane very messy for that type of project. It sets slower if the wood is quite dry and the temperature is cool. You can spray on some water after clamping to speed up the curing process. Yes it needs moisture to cure well.

-- Les B, Oregon

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Ken90712

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#10 posted 12-31-2009 03:09 AM

TB III & only one board at a time. I have done 2, but as you know you take the chance of them not being perfect. A very expirenced woodworker once told me, ” take your time son and do it right the first time.” I have to remind myself this constantly, as I tend to want it done right now!

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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