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Fireguy1957

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1683 days ago

When sanding a cabinet door with a drum sander, doesn’t that mess up the top and bottom rails that have the grain running in opposite directions as the rails? The reason I am asking this is because I am in the process of deciding which sander to purchase. I like the jet oscillating drum sander that I can see would be good for opposite grain directions in a panel door, but it cost nearly 2000 as opposed to a Grizzly 24” drum sander for 1400.
I have worked with wood my whole life framing houses and building log houses, but in retirement, am now starting to get into finish carpentry…so I am going to have a lot of questions!
This is a great site, thanks all for all your blogs thus far.

Bill


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Fireguy1957

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#1 posted 1683 days ago

Thanks Pilot, that helps a lot. I read some sanding forums in here where they talk about running a finished door panel through drum sanders and I couldn’t imagine a good result…

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Chiefk

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#2 posted 1682 days ago

I went to a recent woodworking shop with the intention of buying the Jet 22-44 Oscillating drum sander. While at the show I spoke with a couple of Jet representatives. We were in the process of writing out the purchase order, when I asked if the oscillating sander was actually worth the several hundred dollars over the regular 22-44 sander. The rep said in his opinion “not really.” He explained that the company was have some problems with the oscillating sander. On his advice I bought the 22-44 sander without the oscillating feature. pk

-- P Kennedy Crossville, TN

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teenagewoodworker

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#3 posted 1682 days ago

it will mess it up but mostly in lower grits not so much or a problem in the higher ones. if you really have trouble with a door and need to run it through a sander then run it through like a diamond so its not running across any grain.

but like was said above if you run it through a sander the panel will be level with the sides which is a mark of a box store or other production run place. having the panel set slightly higher than the rails and stiles is the mark of a craftsmans door because it shows they took care to get everything right and didnt run it through a drum sander.

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Fireguy1957

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#4 posted 1680 days ago

Thanks all. It has been very educational.

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dkg

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#5 posted 1676 days ago

Hi fireguy,

I have built a large amount of doors, windows, and cabinet doors. I have had good results with the 6” festool sanders. They are very agressive and it does not take long to smooth out the rail to style area of a door or window and they leave no hatch marks because they are oscillating sanders. I start with 80 grit, 120, 180, and finish with 220.

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Moron

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#6 posted 1676 days ago

I must also be a “wanna be” factory, home depot guy. I almost always put my doors through a thickness sander and yes it leaves sanding marks (albeit most folks would be hardpressed to see them) but they are easily removed with an orbital sander. Even easier if you change the grit to 180 on the last pass. A thickness sander, be it belt or drum, will do in one hour, what takes me a week by hand. If you have “forever” to complete a job, by all means…............knock yerself out !

The day I give away all my machines, my electric orbitals, my battery operated drills, my table saw….........Just shoot me….lol

As for which tool. I’ld get the best you can afford.

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Jerry

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#7 posted 1676 days ago

We use our drum sander, our doors turn out great and we get a lot of compliments from them. Most local shops don’t even build their own doors. We build several doors per year and take a lot of pride in what we do. I am in no way in the same class as Home Depot or any other big box center, there is no comparison. We provide a far superior product over the production companies that support foriegn countries. The wood we use comes off of our land and in every way possible we support our economy unlike the big box. The big box only looks to have a nice looking cabinet, we look to have high quality nice looking cabinet. There are so many differences between us and the big box stores I will not waste time telling of them all. Certainly us using a drum sander for our doors does not merit us or anyone else using a drum sander being compared to a big box store.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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miles125

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#8 posted 1675 days ago

I don’t see how anybody makes money off cabinet doors. So many places dedicated to doors only and cutting each others throats in pricing…I’m just sayin…

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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Fireguy1957

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#9 posted 1675 days ago

Again thank you all for your input..
i am very pleased I found this great site. I love the discussion and the information provided. Happy New year everyone.
Carpe Diem

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Kent Shepherd

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#10 posted 1674 days ago

Miles, you are right. It is extremely difficult to make money on doors. Being very productive is the only way to do it, and thats even hard when everyone demands cheap and fast. But—-”Factories can build a quality door if they refuse to compromise. This is what we use to sand our doors—A Timesaver Model 237—-2 heads—belt size—37” x 75”

And yes we get cross-grain scratches, so we use this—

It is a DMC Finesand, which is a feed through orbital. We don’t send our doors out with cross-grain scratches, but I have to compete price-wise with doors that are poorly sanded.

bentlyj, I’m glad you outsource 80% of you doors—-you guys keep guys like us in business

Sorry guys, but production shops (Factories) are helping to keep housing somewhat affordable

-- She thought I hung the moon--now she just thinks I did it wrong

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dennis mitchell

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#11 posted 1674 days ago

My sander is a 3X21 PortaCable beltsander and a 5” orbital. My point being a $2000.00 or even a $40,000.00 dollar sander would be great, but I’ve built many kitchens without them.

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rhett

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#12 posted 1674 days ago

I love my drumsander. I run 150 on both drums, take light passes and start the orbital with 120. Scratches are no problem.
Kent, I mean this in the most respectful way, you suck :)
I worked in a shop with that exact DMC machine, it worked well, but talk about a PITA to change the paper on.

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dennis mitchell

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#13 posted 1674 days ago

...ya I’m a little jealous of Kents set up too!

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