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11-05-2015 02:13 AM

Topic tags/keywords: cabinet base cabinet face frame 3 door

All,

I am brand new here. I have been reading for some time and have gained great knowledge from you all. I have searched for this specific question but I haven’t had any luck in finding any thing.

I am getting ready to build builtin’s for my new home. We have moved in and this is one of the several projects left to complete. I have built a lot of face frames for columns, mantles, wainscoting, etc for the panel look. One thing I have never tried is doors onto the face frames. My question specifically is door spacing and how wide of a stile to use. Basically I am making a cabinet that has three doors. Two doors open like a sink vanity with no stile and the third will open just normally. The catch is I want the gaps to be the same for all of the spacing between the door. I know that with having working doors side by side by side, I need to leave enough clearance for the door to open without hitting the other door. What formula do you use to calculate the spacing and the width of the stile. See below for a sample of what I am looking to build (minus the handles) :)


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#1 posted 11-05-2015 05:38 AM

If you’re using euro-hinges, you only need minimal space between doors for clearance (we use 1/8” in our shop).

Lots of options. One possibility: 1 1/2” frame stiles, 5/8” overlay hinges, 3/4 “onlay” of third door, 1/8” space.

Overlay amount is a function of: Hinge type (straight-arm, half-cranked, full-cranked), mounting plate height, and “tab” dimension—-the location of the hinge cup hole (distance from edge of door)

If you’re not familiar with the various overlay options with euro-hinges, you might want to look over this info from Blum. Click on the second “Download information” link. It can be confusing at first (especially with the metric dimensions!) but it makes sense after a while.

Blum info

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#2 posted 11-05-2015 11:02 AM

Standard stile width is 2 1/4, but that can vary depending on style.

Those doors look like full overlay, in which case you can space them however you like.

You can omit the center stile (which I prefer) and apply an astralagus (or not), in which case the standard spacing of 1/16 – 3/32 would apply.

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#3 posted 11-05-2015 06:00 PM



Standard stile width is 2 1/4, but that can vary depending on style.

- rwe2156

Yes, for door stiles. I think the OP was asking about face frame stiles

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#4 posted 11-05-2015 06:25 PM

Thanks so much guys, Yes I was talking about face frames. Thanks for the link, I have looked at the different hinge types. The cabinet shop that built our cabinets used blum compact 38N I do believe so at least I have something to compare to. I think what would be best is get my faceframe built, then order the doors and not have them cut the hinge cup hole. Then I can position it however I need to.

On a side note….. shelf pin question. If you have a builtin bookshelf top with two side panels, and one middle panel. Do you use two 3/4 boards for the middle panel (basically building two individual boxes and put them together or do you drill the shelf pin holes in both sides of the 3/4 ply?

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#5 posted 11-06-2015 06:41 AM

I’ve done it both ways. With a single 3/4 panel, I like to offset the holes so they don’t connect inside the panel and create a through-hole.

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#6 posted 11-06-2015 11:59 AM

Oh, ok on the stiles? 1 1/2 – 2”. It depends on application.
In your case, you have to account for opening against wall + baseboard trim.
Also depends somewhat on hinges and handles.

If a book case is over 48” I usually make two separate units.
Depends on where its going and whats on the shelves.
But I try to limit shelf length to 30”

If you use a single panel staggering holes is not necessary unless you want shelves to line up.

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#7 posted 12-30-2015 07:14 PM

Just wanted to say thanks for all of your help in my door spacing. I finally finished the project and got to post some pics in my projects. Here is one that show the doors up close.

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