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Forum topic by Bugnurd posted 11-04-2015 05:53 PM 975 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Bugnurd

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11-04-2015 05:53 PM

Says its been fully restored with new bearings, tires, pulleys. Wired for 110v. Price says $475, but he asks for reasonable offers. I’ve been on the lookout for an older Delta bandsaw for a while. I also need to factor in that I am 1 hour away.
Any thoughts. I know it’s a good saw, but what would you offer for this one?

-- Marc -- Worcester, MA


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Mark

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#1 posted 11-04-2015 06:20 PM

Marc. I don’t know about prices in your neck of the woods, but if he’s open to offers (and even if he wasn’t) that’s a quality tool. That was built when real tools were made. For pretty much the same amount you can get a brand new piece of c..p made in a far away land that is guaranteed to have at least one issue. If I was you I’d snag it, 1hr drive or not. JMTCW

-- Mark

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#2 posted 11-04-2015 06:21 PM

That might be a little high. Everything that moves is new. Maybe offer $350 to start go to $400.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#3 posted 11-04-2015 06:38 PM

Ive been looking for one of those to referb just to have one. Though I would like to get one in a bit worse shape.

-- Don't blame me, I voted for no one.

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#4 posted 11-04-2015 06:39 PM

If you are looking for a 14” cast iron band saw, that would be the one to get… it is the original, remained basically unchanged over its long production run, and is what all the other cheap imitations strive to be when they grow up :)

Even at that price, which is pretty reasonable for a fully restored machine, it’s still cheaper than any of the clone taiwanese imports available today and substantially better. Looks to be a model 28-207, complete with belt guard (which was optional), flare leg open stand and what appears to be an original motor (along with the original motor shaft condom, which is a bonus!). The only thing that seems to be missing is the table alignment pin, which is not really a big deal and can be easily replaced.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#5 posted 11-04-2015 10:02 PM

Is it a 1/2 h.p. original motor? Those old 1/2 horses on older Delta band saws were awesome. That’s a tasty piece of vintage machinery. The upper and lower castings on those older Deltas are way nicer than modern versions. And the wheels are really nice too. Not sure it’s worth $475 but hey, I’ve done worse if I really want something. And you can get a lot of parts from Louis Iturra including the original alignment pin. I’ve got Iturra’s last catalog if you need info.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#6 posted 11-04-2015 10:10 PM

Id say he’s right in the old ball park, a offer of 50 less would be a nice starting offer as not to offend. He’s show plenty of restoring work along with this vintage piece is quite fair, just my opinion best wishes.

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Tennessee

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#7 posted 11-04-2015 10:35 PM

Let me throw just a hint of gasoline on the fire.
Are those cast iron wheels, or cast aluminum?
I cannot see in the bottom half, so is it one speed or two?
Is the upper wheel adjustment unit aluminum, or cast aluminum?
I will applaud the bearing setup on the upper guide – is that also included on the bottom? Big adder.

I am not an expert on older saws, but it seems to me that $475 is way off the mark. I’d be in the $350 range myself.
It is just another opinion…so take it for what it is worth.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 11-04-2015 10:45 PM

Are those cast iron wheels, or cast aluminum?

Cast aluminum.

I cannot see in the bottom half, so is it one speed or two?

Single speed wood only model.

Is the upper wheel adjustment unit aluminum, or cast aluminum?

If it really was restored, then the tracking/tension adjustment bits are cast – should be the standard setup they used for over 70 years.

I will applaud the bearing setup on the upper guide – is that also included on the bottom? Big adder.

There is nothing special about the guides on that machine that I can see – stock HSS blocks and thrust bearing. Lower ones should be the same.

For reference – here is what one looks like taken apart :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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Bugnurd

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#9 posted 11-04-2015 10:49 PM

Apparently he replaced the original aluminum pulleys with cast iron. Not sure if he’s talking about the wheels, or the motor/belt pulleys. No idea yet on the motor size.

-- Marc -- Worcester, MA

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MrUnix

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#10 posted 11-04-2015 11:03 PM

Apparently he replaced the original aluminum pulleys with cast iron.

Yup.. although the original ones on that saw were steel, not aluminium (8” diameter, Delta part #5800 on the saw, and a 2.75” #5275 on the motor). The one on that saw does look like cast iron (although it could be a cast zinc alloy). The motor pulley might be original… hard to tell from the picture. The pulley in my picture above is an original #5800. As a side note, later years (I forgot when exactly), they switched to a 7” pulley on the saw, increasing the SFPM slightly.

As for motor size… Delta recommended a 1/3 hp motor for normal use, and a 1/2 hp for heavy duty use or when using a riser block. Keep in mind that horses apparently were bigger back then as compared to todays breed :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#11 posted 11-05-2015 01:25 AM

Marc, there’s another LJ here who has the same band saw on profile. His handle is “SPRUNG”. Perhaps he could be of some help.

Bob

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#12 posted 11-05-2015 01:47 AM

A tangent perhaps, but the seller obviously appreciates the sentiment given here about this being a special piece of equipment and that they really “don’t make them like they used to.” When you talk to the seller, make sure he knows that you share the respect for this workhorse. My guess is that will make him more comfortable negotiating on the price. If he were only interested in getting the most money from it, I don’t think he’d have put this much into it. Could be wrong, but that’s the vibe I get from the photos.

-- Barry, http://BarrysWorkshop.com/

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Gizmosity

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#13 posted 11-05-2015 03:39 AM

Around my neck of the woods that saw would have an asking price of upwards of $600 and people will hold firm at $500. At least that’s what I’ve found over the last couple years. You might be able to latch onto a saw this nice for less, but you better act fast because it won’t be available long. As has been said, it looks like a well taken care of, restored saw that you can’t touch when looking at new in terms of quality. If I was looking for a 14” saw, I’d be shutting off my computer, hitching up my trailer and stopping at the bank on my way there.

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ForestGrl

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#14 posted 11-05-2015 04:46 AM

I see a saw like that, first I drool. Then I think of Mr. Iturra and his catalogs. Don’t know if he’s still around….

-- My mother said that anyone learning to cook needed a large dog to eat the mistakes. As a sculptor of wood I have always tried to keep a fireplace. (Norman Ridenour)

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Kennyl

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#15 posted 11-05-2015 12:44 PM

The saw you are looking at is much better than the Asians,I know first hand.I originally bought a new Powermatic 14 in. it had so many problems,I took it back to store,after having to argue with the manager at the local woodcraft store.I refurbished the very type of saw you are looking at.A friend of mine needed a bandsaw so I sold it to him and I bought a Delta 890 made somewhere around the mid 40’s.The price the owner wants in my opinion is fair considering it is about half of a new one if not better than half depending on color.

-- Kennyl

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