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Forum topic by Rasta posted 12-17-2009 03:23 AM 5745 views 0 times favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rasta

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12-17-2009 03:23 AM

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I have had problems with titebond and titebond 11 setting up too fast when putting together large box joints, does anyone know of slower setting glues that are readily available?

-- Roscoe in Iowa


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#1 posted 12-17-2009 03:49 AM

Look into polyurethane glue like Gorilla glue. I think it has a pretty long open time.

-- some day I hope to have enough clamps to need a clamp cart!

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#2 posted 12-17-2009 04:03 AM

Titebond III

-- Matt Garcia Wannabe Period Furniture Maker, Houston TX

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#3 posted 12-17-2009 04:15 AM

Greetings Rasta: I’ve ran into the same problem with the slow-set glues, also. They aren’t so slow after all !!!
When I have a pretty big glue-up, and lots of parts to put together, I use Hide Glue. Hide Glue is a very slow-setting glue that is used a lot in instrument- making, and is great for woodworking projects. It dries slow, that’s why it is so good, and has a good bonding hold.

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#4 posted 12-17-2009 04:37 AM

Matt has the answer, titebond III. It has an extended set time.

-- Steve, Gainesville, Fl

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#5 posted 12-17-2009 05:33 AM

Titebond III will help. If you need more time than that, use the Polyurethane glue.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#6 posted 12-17-2009 05:52 AM

The only drawback to using tb3 is glue creep. I have witnessed it firsthand on a few tops of furniture I have built recently. Another great glue that sets slow is plastic resin glue like weldwood made by dap.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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#7 posted 12-17-2009 05:55 AM

hide glue

you can re-heat it

that said…......titrebond III

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#8 posted 12-17-2009 06:21 AM

Roman, What do you mean by “glue creep?” Does it leave a nasty mark that won’t take finish?

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#9 posted 12-17-2009 07:37 AM

Glue creep means the parts move. Yellow wood glues are not 100% rigid, they can move, or “creep” over time. Most noticeable on edge glued joints.

-- Gerry, http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/index.html http://www.jointcam.com

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#10 posted 12-17-2009 07:53 AM

Epoxy glue is available in a variety of setting times. I’ve used West Systems epoxy with the slow hardener and you have to leave it in clamps for six hours or more. Pot time is over an hour if you keep it cool. Note that if you put a bunch of epoxy in a cup and don’t cool it, it will generate heat and set up fast. Just have a pot or some container with ice to sit your cup in.

I think System 3 has some very slow epoxy, also.

Mike

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#11 posted 12-17-2009 08:07 AM

During my time in Frank Klaus’ class he was a strong adherent of elmers white glue. i only use tb3 on my cutting boards.

-- Happiness is being covered in sawdust

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#12 posted 12-17-2009 08:21 AM

I’ve got a gallon bottle of Titebond III that I used to glue up my MDF benchtop. It worked really good for that. But now it seems like it’s too “watery” or thin, compared to the other TiteBonds I have. It’s not that old,either. Maybe 3 months. I haven’t had any glueing problems with it, but it sure seems thin, and wants to set up quicker than it’s supposed to. It’s tan looking, or brown. Depends on your eye-sight…...........

Mike: I’ve used that epoxy glue your talking about. Maybe not the same brand, but I don’t like it. Too messy. I’ll just reach for the Hide glue for longer glue-up time. It works for me…..............

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#13 posted 12-17-2009 01:04 PM

I use Titebond 3 and have had good results, Gorrila glue expands so be careful. It is very strong glue but be careful of staining.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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#14 posted 12-17-2009 01:34 PM

Titebond Extend (extended open time ) West systems epoxy, You can buy the hardener with the open time that you need.

-- Les, Wichita, Ks. (I'd rather be covered in saw dust!)

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#15 posted 12-17-2009 02:57 PM

I use titebond III…..and I am constantly turning the jug, be it rolling it or turning it upside down, otherwise I find it gets thick on the bottom and thin on the top.

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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