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NWConan

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11-01-2015 07:23 PM

Hello Everyone, new to forum but have read reviews and project that some of you have done over the last year or so.

Little bit about myself. Been a carpenter for 35 plus years building houses and have started moving into custom cabinets and bookcases/entertainment centers etc.

The saw I’ve been using is old contractor table saw “Central Machinery” that I had for about 30 years or so, it’s time to put it to rest.

The saw I’ve been looking at is Powermatic PM1000, it’s been slightly used for $1,200.00 from authorized dealer which he gives 90 day warranty. Now I would love to have 3 hp saw but I don’t think I can get any more power because my panel is maxed out, and 220 that I do have to the barn/shop runs my air, and Bridgeport milling machine. Thought about running another power source but I would have to rob Peter to pay Paul.

The saw is like new, it was demo saw from my understanding, it’s already assembled, no rust and no damage. Haven’t tested if it’s true yet but again it is from authorized dealer that sells Powermatic and Jet tools.

Is 1200.00 a far price? Would like to hear from others that own this saw. Most of wood is 4/4 plan to about 13/16. Materials I work with mostly is Cherry, Birch, Maple some Walnut, Fir Oak and yes MDF for trim etc.

Also would this saw hold up on re-sale if I do decide to trade it in for more power? One would seem to think being 110/220 would have more options for buyers.

What are your thoughts?

-- Sawdust is my life.


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#1 posted 11-01-2015 07:32 PM

Remember that your most likely not running your milling machine and maybe your air at the same time your running your saw so you wouldn’t require more power.

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#2 posted 11-01-2015 09:17 PM

I have a Pm 2000 saw so mine is a bigger saw. However, I have 4or 5 other PM machines and have never had a problem with my Powermatic machines. I’m not sure that this helps or not but thought you might like to know. Not only this but when I was in the manufacturing business we have had a lot of experience with Powermatic for over 40 years with no problems with the machinery or company nor the dealers that we used.

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#3 posted 11-02-2015 12:46 AM



Remember that your most likely not running your milling machine and maybe your air at the same time your running your saw so you wouldn t require more power.

- daddywoofdawg

Actually sometimes I may have one or two other people working in shop/barn and machine shop. Besides I’m always using air.

What about the price? 1200.00 for demo model Or what about resale value? Will it hold up?


I have a Pm 2000 saw so mine is a bigger saw. However, I have 4or 5 other PM machines and have never had a problem with my Powermatic machines. I m not sure that this helps or not but thought you might like to know. Not only this but when I was in the manufacturing business we have had a lot of experience with Powermatic for over 40 years with no problems with the machinery or company nor the dealers that we used.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

- helluvawreck

I’ve used Powermatic tools before in other shops years ago. They have always been precision/quality tools. Just little nerviest if their will be a market for saw like this if and when I retire…..or if it’s something you have someone to haul it away free.

-- Sawdust is my life.

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#4 posted 11-09-2015 12:43 AM

To give you update I bought this saw from a preferred dealer dealership that specialize in Powermatic and Jet tools for $1,200.00. Still under warranty.

Their were couple of scratches, on lower base left side and up on left side of table. It also had larger fence from PM2000. I think the fence that came with it was damaged as well, reason for replacement.

Bought new Freud rip blade for it, tested it out on Maple ripping stile and rails for 54 doors and no burns, no dogging of motor etc. Is it as powerful of 3HP…..no but it does cut much better then any contractor saw I’ve used.

Is it worth 2000.00 out of the box, no. I think I would go with bigger saw. But is sure as hell worth 1200.00 I paid for it IMO.

I’ve also tested Grizzly G071P with few pieces of Maple with original blade that came with saw (dogged if I fed it to fast). It’s like comparing apples to oranges between the two saws. More vibration and lot louder then powermatic, might be the blade saw. But IMO the saw just seems cheaper quality overall from smoothness of belt, gears for adjusting height and angle to the fence etc.

No regrets. IMO Powermatic was much better deal for 1200.00 with couple scratches then G071P for 875.00 new.

-- Sawdust is my life.

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NWConan

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#5 posted 11-09-2015 05:18 AM

To poster that PM me about if they had any other saws like mine for sale. Yes.

The saw was to the right of the one I bought.

As you can see the scratch paint on lower left side of base, not sure about the top because it was boxed up.

-- Sawdust is my life.

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#6 posted 11-09-2015 05:32 AM

Quite an upgrade from that harbor freight saw you had :)


Also would this saw hold up on re-sale if I do decide to trade it in for more power? One would seem to think being 110/220 would have more options for buyers.

If you are worried about resale value years down the road and recovering your money, then you should buy used – you can usually get what you paid when you resale. Buying new, you lose 25% of the value just taking it off the showroom floor, and another 25% the first time you run some wood through it. If you keep it in fairly good shape and it doesn’t fall off the roof or something, you should be able to sell it for a few hundred at least. Heck, even old beat up benchtop things can get $50 or more!

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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NWConan

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#7 posted 11-09-2015 07:24 PM



Quite an upgrade from that harbor freight saw you had :)

Also would this saw hold up on re-sale if I do decide to trade it in for more power? One would seem to think being 110/220 would have more options for buyers.

If you are worried about resale value years down the road and recovering your money, then you should buy used – you can usually get what you paid when you resale. Buying new, you lose 25% of the value just taking it off the showroom floor, and another 25% the first time you run some wood through it. If you keep it in fairly good shape and it doesn t fall off the roof or something, you should be able to sell it for a few hundred at least. Heck, even old beat up benchtop things can get $50 or more!

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

Yes it is, makes me regret not getting one sooner. The step up from contractor saw to cabinet saw is huge.

I figured biggest hit I already saved.

They are going to let me know when they have scratched PM2244 drum sander. They have new one there and I want one, or 2244 jet oscillating sander. ;)

-- Sawdust is my life.

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