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Forum topic by MedicKen posted 12-15-2009 03:49 AM 3676 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MedicKen

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12-15-2009 03:49 AM

I want to add another vise to my bench. I currently have a small 6” vise on the face of the bench and have longed for another one with some holding power. The current vise is a Craftsman from about 1950 and it has seen better days. My bench top is laminated MDF with a 1/4” hardboard top and construction grade lumber for the legs and trestle assembly. The only review I saw was for the Veritas end vise and it wasnt a good review at that. I need some opinions and help choosing another vise or maybe even 2.

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Bothus

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#1 posted 12-15-2009 04:45 AM

Hi Ken,

I haven’t bought one yet either. I was planning to buy a 9” vise that Rockler had on sale but then I read the reviews in the Fine Woodworking 2010 Tool Guide. Veritas was rated best overall and Lee Valley was voted Best Value.

Let us know what you pick. Maybe you could do a review of it.

Good luck,

Bothus

-- Jerry Boshear, Professional Kitchen Designer, amature woodworker.

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#2 posted 12-15-2009 04:48 AM

I don’t know too much about larger than 6” vise but I have a couple of photos.

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#3 posted 12-15-2009 04:50 AM

Ken,
My votes are for a Jorgenson quick-release vise for your front vise, and a Veritas Twin Screw vise for your tail vise. The Jorgenson recently took top ratings for bench vises in Fine WW, and the Twin Screw is a favorite of lots of guys with workbenches.
I’ve used this setup on my workbench for 15yrs now, and it’s served me well. Don’t forget to put in lots of dog holes across the top of the bench to get the most use out of the vises.
Gerry

-- Gerry

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PurpLev

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#4 posted 12-15-2009 04:50 AM

Ken, are your legs flush with the top? (stop it … I mean the workbench legs ;) ) if so, I found that a leg vise (for the workbench! come on) has tremendous hold, can be fairly inexpensive to setup, quite versatile, and you can shape it any way you like. check out the one on my bench here:

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otherwise, I would go with one of the quick release vises from Rockler, or LV, whichever is on sale.

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MedicKen

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#5 posted 12-15-2009 05:05 AM

I have been looking at the Jorgenson quick release as you mentioned Gerry. I have also looked at the Veritas twin screw but the review here didnt fair so well. Has Veritas redesigned the vise? Or did the reviewer just have a bad egg?

Sharon…..my legs are not flush, they like my belly overhang a little(ok more than a little).

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Rick Dennington

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#6 posted 12-15-2009 05:36 AM

Greetings Ken: Here’s what I did. I bought 2—6” quick-release vices from Grizzly (about 12 years ago when Grizzly was in Memphis), and mounted them to my newer banch. I “buried” the rear jaws in the trim on the bench for both vices, and built 12” jaw faces for both. With a vice mounted on each end of the bench, I can hold long boards to work with, if needed. Works great, and the vices were cheap. Quick-release is the way to go…..............

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gerrym526

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#7 posted 12-15-2009 08:36 PM

Ken,
Every LJ is entitled to his own opinion. I’ve been using the Twin Screw on my bench for 15yrs without any problems. Yes, you occasionally have to remove the cover to adjust the set screws, but not often. As far as the reviewer’s comment on clamping pressure-what I use the vise for is to secure pieces I’m planing, sanding, routing, etc between workbench bench dogs and and vise jaw mounted bench dogs. I don’t need the same level of clamping pressure to secure a workpiece as I would if I were doing a glue-up.
My vote for a tail vise is still for the Twin Screw.

-- Gerry

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#8 posted 12-16-2009 06:44 AM

I’ve just bough a Twin Screw and the larger Veritas for a new bench.

Trouble is i can’t finally get comfortable about putting the Twin Screw on the LH end of the front, or full width at the end. i.e. something like the Veritas modern bench with a front facing/skirt, the vice locations reversed, and heavier legs

I’m led towards the front for the TS, as i figure that’s what may work best for holding slightly tapered pieces like legs for planing. It’d also leave me facing out the window for much of my vice based work.

The plan is a sliding vertical (no idea what it’s called) with dog holes between a front facing heavy edge facing (and rear jaw of the front vice), and the stretcher between the trestles.

I also figure that a long jaw timber on the front vice mounted on the end will still allow me enough width for three nicely spaced rows of dog holes down the bench for clamping.

Thinking of a slide out 3 piece tool tray towards the rear to allow it to be slid out for clamping if needed. (saw the idea on a recent UK mag)

4 X 4 trestle and stretcher legs, and probably a cabinet inside.

Anybody see any obvious problems, especially with the vice locations? What am i missing by not going for one of those ‘L’ shaped timber end vices?

ian

-- Late awakener....

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