Zinsser Shellac Stain Block Primer-Odor/Dry Time/Application???Help

“I’m repainting my old oak dark stained kitchen “

This was as far as I got. Paint? On wood?

Blasphemy!

Shellac has very little odor the solvent is alcohol.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

Like he said shellac has little odor and it dries very quickly. I use dewaxed shellac as a seal coat and can spray my next product about 30 minutes later.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

Shellac is an awesome sealer too. Very little bleed through. And after I use it a while I feel like I’m on a Caribbean vacation drinking gin and tonic.

It sands well, very flat with a fine grit. I usually use a short nap roller like foam. It can go on thin because it seals very well. It tends to leave little lumps that need sanding. And like I said it sands well.

I was introduced to it by fire restoration guys and it’s my go-to solution for a number of problems: odor, hiding, quick and fast white undercoat (comes other colors too). It sticks to just about anything with minimal preparation. It’s gotten expensive, though.

-- Dave, New England - “We are made to persist. that's how we find out who we are.” ― Tobias Wolff

Hi Frank
As suggested Zinsser’s Shellac-Based Primer is the product you need …..if you don’t have to many doors to paint….for a few extra bucks….try a can of the same product in aerosol….I think it would give you similar results as your HVLP finish…..read the spray can and stay 11 to 12 inches away….My results with brushing or rolling shellac primer wasn’t as good as some ….. much better results with the spray can…..especially in the corners
Hope this helps
RocketDogs

I can’t add much to what’s been said, but want to emphasize the “tough to brush” comment (doesn’t roll real well, but it’s better than brushing…at least for me). Try it on a scrap piece to perfect your technique. Also the white pigment settles fairly quick, so keep it stirred maybe a little more than you might with other paints.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

Thanks everyone! The cabinets are stained oak, not painted. I prepped the boxes and paint brushed them and they came out great. Its the doors that are causing bleed and it sounds like B-I-N is exactly what i need based on everyone’s feedback, thanks!

So it doesn’t smell and linger a lot? I was under the impression that it was like oil based primer and the smell would linger very strong for a few days. Is that not the case with Shellac and its alcohol base?

Maybe i’ll go buy a spray can or two and see how it does. The guys at my paint shop thought with a good brush it should go on no problem and lay down flat. The idea of spraying it on with a spray can might be ideal, think I can do that without getting runs and all worse than a brush?

Any idea what it is called at Home Depot? I think its labeled differently.

Your worry about the odor is a little overdone. It does have a strong alcohol smell, but it’s very short lived. B-I-N won’t be labeled differently, but make sure it’s the shellac based one, there are some other formulas. A;lso, you may get much thinner coats with the rattle cans..plan accordingly.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

Your worry about the odor is a little overdone. It does have a strong alcohol smell, but it s very short lived. B-I-N won t be labeled differently, but make sure it s the shellac based one, there are some other formulas. A;lso, you may get much thinner coats with the rattle cans..plan accordingly.

- Fred Hargis

Thanks Fred!
The guys at the store told me it will smell up the house like crazy so that’s why I was concerned, and only because I have babies in the house. Glad to hear it isn’t as harsh as they made it out to be, or i’ll do a test and find out.

Would it make sense to try to spray it through an HVLP setup instead?

I’m the wrong guy to ask about spraying BIN through HVLP. I tried it and failed miserably. I couldn’t keep the TiO2 (white pigment) suspended. It kept settling to the bottom of the cup clogging my gun. I’m on of the few who can’t spray it (apparently) since most other folks seem to make it spray just fine. But if you can do that, it would be the way to go.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

HandyFrank Asked???
Any idea what it is called at Home Depot? I think its labeled different

Sorry I can’t get the link to work but it is at Home Depot….13oz spray….about $8.50 a can

“http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zinsser-13-oz-B-I-N-Shellac-Based-White-Interior-Spot-Exterior-Primer-and-Sealer-Spray-01008/100398390”: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zinsser-13-oz-B-I-N-Shellac-Based-White-Interior-Spot-Exterior-Primer-and-Sealer-Spray-01008/100398390