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Forum topic by rhett posted 12-12-2009 06:27 PM 2869 views 0 times favorited 80 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-12-2009 06:27 PM

Is it just me, or do other people find amusement in posts made by people who have nothing to show for their self implied wealth of woodworking knowledge. I often read forum postings by people who get snarky and defensive about woodwork, only look and see that they have posted no examples of their mastery of wood. Its easy to sound like you have knowledge of a subject, it’s not so easy to show proof. The old saying rings true….Put up or shut up. Just my .02

-- Doubt kills more dreams than failure.

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#1 posted 12-12-2009 06:45 PM

Merry Christmas!

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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#2 posted 12-12-2009 07:07 PM

Lighten up dude, it’s Christmas! I do know what you are saying though. Yea, I’ve seen it before. My advice, if you care is, look where it’s coming from, a no-body! Mike in Mich.

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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#3 posted 12-12-2009 07:19 PM


-- Happy woodworking!

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#4 posted 12-12-2009 07:22 PM


Look, most people actually have a life, with spouse and kids and jobs (plural). I only have time to build stuff on occasion (I am making Christmas boxes) and rarely have time to do any thing on LJ other than post to the forums maybe once a day. If I didn’t nobody would know I’m part of the community.

Other than my kitchen, I only recently was able to set-up shop in my new
home and the only projects I could post are things built a
long time ago, which nobody wants to see.

Just because we don’t have have anything to show doesn’t mean we don’t know what we are talking about…and none of us declares ourselves an expert at it.

Regardless of the hobby, it’s thread like this one that makes me wonder why I even bother with Internet forums.

-- jay,

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#5 posted 12-12-2009 07:48 PM

It doesn’t bother me at all if people want to comment without having any projects posted.

Having said that, I prefer when people post projects because it gives me a better frame of reference for interpreting their comments.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#6 posted 12-12-2009 08:01 PM

with the net that is not face to face we have lost the saying if you dont have anything to say dont say anything at all

-- gagewestern

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#7 posted 12-12-2009 08:19 PM

Why don’t you post some things you’ve made, and then we may discuss it. No projects, or blogs—- no discussion. Some people don’t post a lot of their pieces on here—- I post a few. But that don’t mean I don’t know how to build them. I’ve probably built more furniture and sold enough I could furnish your house.
‘Nuff said’.........

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....

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#8 posted 12-12-2009 08:23 PM


I don’t don’t have any projects posted here. And your method certainly does not give me incentive to post any.

I’m not here to live up to your requirements. We’re here to help one another and part of that is sharing knowledge and posting projects is not a requirement for sharing knowledge in my opinion.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#9 posted 12-12-2009 08:28 PM

Hey. If you made anything, no matter how long ago, post it. Who cares. I posted some projects I first made in Jr and Sr high schools. Just let’s people know how you started and where you are today. People can tell how much experience you have that way and can take your comments for what they are worth.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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#10 posted 12-12-2009 08:32 PM

Does posting projects really make a difference. As I found out Charlie Neil makes all those videos and has a huge knowledge of wood working but has never posted a project. He has his reasons. I’m sure there are a number of “professional” wood workers who contribute but don’t post pictures of their “commercial” jobs.
Personally I have made hundreds of items that I haven’t posted; many are just (boring) furniture or cabinet work. I try to post new or interesting things as much to inspire others as to get some feed back on my work.

It would be nice if everyone would fill in their geographical locations and a short profile of their experiences and maybe philosophies of wood working and life so we could get to know them. Personally I find it helpful in answering questions and making constructive remarks about projects if I know what the person’s experience or background is.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#11 posted 12-12-2009 08:43 PM

What does a professional forum posting woodworker, furniture maker, carpenter, good ol boy look and sound like
? Most of the ones I know are full of the horse dropping materials you know.
If you want to see some of my work go to Facebook and look for pete paris, some is there. I cannot help that I have dial up and can’t post pictures on this particular site as of yet, but they are coming hopefully.

I have a work ethic that has been around since it all started. The older ones teach the younger ones and this is basically a place of learning as I see it. I am even learning from the younger ones these days. So how can I learn anything positive when I come to this site and see that I should not ask questions or comment unless I have shown someone a life history of my shop, my family, and all the things I have tried to build but just can’t get over this little hump without asking for a little help. It is not the question of getting help it is in the asking that people grow. So I ask what does a self implied wealth of woodworking knowledgable professional forum posting woodworker, furniture maker, carpenter, good ol boy look and sound like???

-- Humble Wood Servant

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#12 posted 12-12-2009 08:56 PM

Good advice is good advice. It stands on it’s own and seeks not verification from a portfolio. Besides, if bad advice is given, I’m pretty sure people will get called on the carpet for it.

If I decide to post something it will be something I’m proud of. My first coffee table, a laminate-covered, 80’s influenced monstrosity, and the TV stand I built made entirely of 2×2 pine 23 years ago, would do nothing to inspire people to listen to my advice.

If I do need advice on a project, I’ll post the question to the forums. Don’t need the projects sections for that…and honestly, a small jpg is hardly good enough to do justice to a project anyway, and conversely, can hide a lot of flaws.

BTW, only being here a couple of months, I had no idea that Curt had no projects posted. He doesn’t need them, as I’ve found his posts to be some of the best I’ve read here.

-- jay,

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#13 posted 12-12-2009 09:04 PM

Not picking a fight, I don’t need to relax because I’m not upset. I am just presenting a personal opinion. Post projects, don’t post projects its all up to you. I am sure there are alot of very talented woodworkers on here with full bodies of work under their belt. If your on a computer, posting ideas on a woodworking site, I believe most other woodworkers on their computers would like to see your work. Plain and simple. I never said it should be required. I am more prone to look at topics presented by others whos work I admire.

Merry Christmas

-- Doubt kills more dreams than failure.

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#14 posted 12-12-2009 09:10 PM

Then please avoid the use of words like “find amusement in posts made by people.” Sounds like you are asking for a fight.

Thank you!

-- jay,

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#15 posted 12-12-2009 09:13 PM

I here you,before I take advice from someone i first check out there projects.And if no projects to judge from then I pretty much dismiss the advice.The site is about sharing though so it would be nice to have posted at least one project.Plus im a visual person so the pics of a project help a lot, but thats me.Oh and merry christmas

-- eric post, tallahassee FL

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