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jimmyhopps

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10-20-2015 11:05 PM

i am putting a large cabinet/pantry at then end of a dead end hallway in my basement. it probably wasn’t the right way, but i built the cabinet box at the space’s maximum width – ie the left and right sides are abutted against the adjoining wall (at least it is at the top, but bottom is off the wall since the wall is way out of plumb). the wall to the inside edge of the cabinet frame at the bottom is 1 3/8”. at the top there is no gap, so wall to inner cabinet edge is 3/4” .
see pics.

I’m trying to figure out how wide of a face frame stile i need to allow for the cabinet door to open at least 90 degrees assuming a 1” knob on the door. I imagine this is dependent upon the hinge type to which i’m open to suggestions – all i know is that i’m going to use euro overlay hinges of some type.

Any recommendations on the frame width and hinge combo that would be best? there is no filler strip here – just the face frame (the outside edge of which i have scribed to the wall). Hence i think a measurement should be from the wall itself?


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#1 posted 10-20-2015 11:20 PM

We always went with a 3” stile in those situations.

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#2 posted 10-21-2015 01:17 AM

I would scribe a piece flush with the partition and use Blum face frame

hinges. You got this Jimmyhopps no problem.

It’ll look good as well.

Not Blum but you get the idea
http://www.cabinetparts.com/p/blum-european-cabinet-hinges-type-BH38N358008?prclev=CMH63F4QHR35&gclid=CMWWquay0sgCFYVqfgodqrQLZw

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#3 posted 10-21-2015 02:15 AM

I usually allow the face frame to extend 1/2” beyond the carcase so that I can scribe it in to fit tight to the wall. On most walls that is plenty although some may need more.

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#4 posted 10-21-2015 02:33 AM

Just like waho said. Scribe your stile to the wall so that it hangs over inside the cabinet about 1/4”. You will need to start with a piece of wood that is about 1 5/8”. The Blum hinges will have zero clearance and will open something like 105°. Nothing you can do about out of plumb walls but deal with it like you’re doing.

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#5 posted 10-21-2015 12:02 PM

I always use a 2” filler strip, but I only build frameless cabs.

I would think you can use a standard 2 1/4” frame.

Mound a hinge to a piece of wood, mock it up and see what dimension works for you!!

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#6 posted 10-21-2015 12:55 PM



The Blum hinges will have zero clearance and will open something like 105°.

- firefighterontheside

Just to add on to this, Blum makes restrictor clips for some of there hinges, for situations just like this, and they’re only a couple bucks. You’ll need to make sure ahead of time that you choose a hinge that they make the clip for (not hard, they’re common). The add-on clip restricts the door from opening to the full 105. I think it stops it at something between 85-90, if I remember correctly (been a while).

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skipj

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#7 posted 10-21-2015 01:50 PM

Ed has got it right. Use the blum 38n compact hinge,which is a 105 degree opening,the restriction clip makes
it a 86 degrees. The hinge is available in diferent overlays and regular or soft close.

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#8 posted 10-21-2015 02:18 PM

thanks for the advice guys. helpful. i will scribe the outter edge. it also seems like the the frame needs to extend some inch or so distance into the cabinet area (a bit further than normal), especially at the top of the box where it sits flush with the wall? 1” knob + 3/4” cabinet door = 1 3/4” of face frame width, assume the inner part of the door aligns flush with the cabinet box. then i need some margin! so 2”?

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