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toddbeaulieu

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10-20-2015 06:13 PM

Curious if you are 100% face shield for all spindle and bowl work, or if there are scenarios. Is sanding considered to be safe enough for just glasses?

Trying to decide on a new shield. Sanding dust is a big deal, too, that I need to figure out. I think ideally I’d have something to suck up most of the dust and a low profile respirator for the balance. My 3M uses an over the head strap and I can’t imagine using it in combination with a shield. But I’m ok with it with just glasses.

Looked at the trend breather and it gets such bad reviews I was scared off. Actually I think the newer model gets much better reviews. I was looking at one on ebay. They’re pretty pricey, but if it really works, it would be worth it. The alternative seems to be the Bionic. I might order this Miller mask. It appears to be lower profile and doesn’t require an over the head strap. At least from what I can tell.


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#1 posted 10-20-2015 06:34 PM

I use a shield, glasses and respirator. You never know when something will go wrong.

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Arlin Eastman

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#2 posted 10-20-2015 06:36 PM

Todd

I do wear one all the time I turn and use a grinder.

For one I hate chips flying and hitting my face, then there are times when a splinter will fly up and hit the shield and if not those two reasons I had had a piece come off and hit it too a few times and know of others that it saved their face and head from worse damage then what happened.

I did use the Bionic UVAC (Spelling?) face shield and it worked really well but a lot of dust always found its way inside and started blocking my vision so I got another one and I am still out on opinion on that one.

On a dust mask I always wear one sanding. I did have the Trend Air powered one because of sever reactions but I no longer have them but still wear long sleeves to keep it off of my arms. I will sell it in the future now too.

Last I even wear face protection because I did have a small bowl come apart during sanding so I would never do without there too.
I feel why not wear safety protection when you have it since something can go wrong at anytime and save your head it is just a little effort to do it.

Hope this helps

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toddbeaulieu

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#3 posted 10-20-2015 06:42 PM

@Arlin, I’ve been wearing the full (cheap) mask about 95% of the time. I guess I was hoping people would assure me that 500 RPM sanding is perfectly fine with just glasses.

I’m slowly getting used to the fact that I can’t blow away wood chips through the shield! The other night I had my first sneezing fit with it on. That was pleasant!

Did you have the older Trend or the current model?

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Cashew

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#4 posted 10-20-2015 07:18 PM

100% cheap face shield while turning, sanding and buffing. Respirator as well. Box fan with 2 filters sucking the air at floor level behind me to catch extra dust. I tried my shop vac for dust pickup but didn’t care for it. I use a homemade sanding wax while sanding and it cuts the fine dust down and my turning looks better and stays cooler.

Health wise you owe it to yourself, I need to upgrade my face shield as well.
Be safe, and have fun.
Cashew

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#5 posted 10-20-2015 08:00 PM

My head is ugly enough without subjecting it to shrapnel from any machine. We use a lot of spalted wood around here and have NO desire tho inhale that fungus when turning, sawing or sanding it. Bad for the health you know.
On a further note we wear hearing protection any time we work with machinary. Any hearing loss is to much hearing loss. Especialy when there is personal protection available for everyone in the shop. ALLWAYS YELL ” NOISE” BEFORE TURNING ON ANY LOUD MACHINE. Decreases the danger in the shop. imho.

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toddbeaulieu

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#6 posted 10-20-2015 08:03 PM

Actually I do yell “FIRE IN THE HOLE!” when I’m about to turn on the food processor to crush my ice for a gin and tonic.

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#7 posted 10-20-2015 08:16 PM

The Bionics are popular but check the specs; they may be Z87 or Z87+. You want the +.
Standard (Z87) must withstand a 1” ball dropped from 50 inches. That’s it.
Z87+ must withstand about 1.25 pound pointed object dropped from the same height. Additionally it must withstand a 1/4” steel ball at almost 100 mph.
I use Z87+ safety glasses (DeWalt) with a cheap face shield for grinding and most spindle work. A cheap shield by itself I would skip. You may receive a greater injury form a shard of the shield going into your eye than from the object itself. It will keep little nuisance chips away.

For Bowl or other heavy work Z87+ safety glasses and a V50 face shield (ballistic grade).

When sanding I use the 3M P100 mask. Same rating as the expensive systems, down to 0.3 at 100% efficiency.
They state up to 160 hours use but at about $7.00 I toss them after about 24 hours which is 3-4 months for me.

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toddbeaulieu

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#8 posted 10-20-2015 08:21 PM

I can see the + rating in a customer photo of the box. You’d think they’d list that on the website! I hadn’t heard of V50. I’ll look into that. Thanks.

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#9 posted 10-20-2015 08:23 PM

I use a 3m 1/2 face mask, ear muffs, & the vacuum hooked up to the ROS.

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#10 posted 10-20-2015 08:34 PM

Last weekend I started building a treasure chest box and was using a router to cut out the fingers for the joints and decided to put on my safety goggles, mask, and hearing protectors. I’m glad I did..the amount of sawdust from the router was more than I expected and the hearing protection…it was nice to not have my ears ringing from the noise.

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#11 posted 10-22-2015 01:18 AM

I always wear a 3M Air Stream hood. They are full face and HEPA filtration. They’re kinda spendy though, over $800 new.

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toddbeaulieu

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#12 posted 10-22-2015 06:07 PM

Well I decided on the Bionic and I absolutely love it so far!

When I saw the box I was skeptical. When I pulled it out of the box I was 100% convinced … that it was NOT what I wanted! Way too flimsy and light, was my first impression. But after assembling it and trying it out and comparing it to my old POS mask dang! This shield is sweet!

- Super lightweight
- Comfortable “sweat band” head band
- Excellent adjustments and adjustability to angle and distance from face (for dust mask, etc.)

I’ve used for a couple of hours so far and it’s truly as if it’s not even on. My only negative feeling is that I’ll be sad when the plastic is no longer crystal clear, as if not even there.

I haven’t yet tried to fit a dust mask under it.

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#13 posted 10-22-2015 06:18 PM

I used a cheap face shield for a couple years, then a much better one came with my latest lathe, huge improvement. The old one I hated wearing, the new one isn’t bad at all although it’s still a little heavy. I might look at the Bionic. I also bought a 3M face/dust mask, super comfortable.

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#14 posted 10-22-2015 06:25 PM

I use a face shield and a respirator when I turn and sand and the difference

is like night and day.

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#15 posted 10-22-2015 07:05 PM

N95 respirator always. Prescription safety glasses always. Face shield when I am carving, using the tablesaw or planer.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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