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Forum topic by holsterguy posted 10-18-2015 11:49 AM 626 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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holsterguy

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10-18-2015 11:49 AM

I’m working on a project that requires a dull sheen almost dead flat. I’m using lacquer and I’m having a heck of a time getting it in matte. Does anyone know, can I take a can of satin and carefully pour off some of the clear, without disturbing the flattening stuff at the bottom. Would that then result in a “flatter” finish? Don’t want to use poly. I like spraying lacquer.


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#1 posted 10-18-2015 12:03 PM

Might have to go over it very lightly with 0000 steelwool to dull it down a bit.

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#2 posted 10-18-2015 06:32 PM

You can use a cup gun and thin approx 60\40…......60 percent being the
Lacquer.

You will need to lay up several coats to compensate for the thinning

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#3 posted 10-19-2015 02:25 AM

You can buy spray cans of matte clear lacquer from a metal supply company. I patinate (artificially color) metal projects that I make, and the matte clear covers that finish with absolutely no sheen.

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#4 posted 10-19-2015 03:47 AM

I would just get some flattening agent from your lacquer dealer.
I use SW and have gotten it from them before.
Pouring off the top may work, but I think it compromises the integrity of the finish. 6 months or a year down the road who knows what the finish might do?
Might be just fine but it’s easier to add a flattening agent and do it right, than to refinish something later.

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#5 posted 10-19-2015 04:00 AM


You can use a cup gun and thin approx 60 …......60 percent being the
Lacquer.

You will need to lay up several coats to compensate for the thinning

- cabmaker


How does this change the sheen?
Thinner is just a delivery agent that evaporates off.
Your still putting the same “solids” on, just less of it each coat. Your not changing the composition of the lacquer. Maybe you can teach me, cause I don’t see it.
If anything your just wasting thinner.

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#6 posted 10-19-2015 06:31 PM

If you add flattening paste, agitate the finish frequently, as the flattening agent may fall out of suspension.

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the_other_ken

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#7 posted 10-22-2015 07:46 PM

General finishes makes a matt finish called “Flat Out Flat Self Cross Linking Acrylic Topcoat”. It is supposed to be a “truly flat” finish but I have not tried it.

https://generalfinishes.com/retail-products/water-base-top-coats-sanding-sealers/flat-out-flat-self-cross-linking-acrylic-topcoat

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#8 posted 10-22-2015 08:37 PM



General finishes makes a matt finish called “Flat Out Flat Self Cross Linking Acrylic Topcoat”.

- theotherken

Ken, this sounds very promising and worth trying. I only wish it came in an oil-based.

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#9 posted 10-23-2015 12:33 AM

This project used a rattle can spray lacquer. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/81814

It looks like plain wood with no finish.

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#10 posted 10-23-2015 12:59 AM

0000 steel wool with wax

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#11 posted 10-23-2015 01:12 AM


0000 steel wool with wax

- TheFridge

Actually, I find the fewer the 0s the flatter the finish. Wax also tends to give it some shine. I wonder if a rather coarse rub, with no wax, would attract unwanted visibles, such as dust, over time.

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