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tblake1984

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10-12-2015 02:28 PM

I pilfered my father’s old Stanley #3 and I believe it to be a Type 12 (three patent dates behind frog and a “high” knob). I understand that a modern offering from LV or Veritas would probably be easier but seeing as how I would be the fourth generation with this tool, I would like to bring it back to its former glory.

Aside from a healthy dose of rust on pretty much the whole thing, it seems to be in decent shape. There are no pitting or cracks anywhere and the knob and tote are in good shape. I am thinking a good cleaning with WD-40 and a toothbrush, lapping the sole on a glass plate with sandpaper, and sharpening the iron will get me 90% there.

It is missing a lateral adjustment lever and I am wondering where I might find a replacement for this tool. What methods do you guys use to keep your planes rust-free?


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tblake1984

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#1 posted 10-12-2015 03:07 PM

Groyuti…. 59 posts in 53 minutes? You need to be blocked.

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Bill White

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#2 posted 10-12-2015 03:14 PM

Is the tote and knob in pretty good shape? If so, I just buff with green compound, wax the plane after removing rust with plain old paste wax, put some caning wax on the sole (Gulfwax), and put the plane to work.
I don’t want my user planes to look new. The age is part of the charm, and the performance is what counts.
Enjoy the #3. It is a good plane.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Ocelot

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#3 posted 10-12-2015 03:26 PM

You can buy the lateral lever or any other part from NHPlaneParts on ebay.

It’s riveted on. I’ve never had one off or put one on, so I don’t know how hard that would be.

-Paul

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tblake1984

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#4 posted 10-12-2015 04:38 PM



You can buy the lateral lever or any other part from NHPlaneParts on ebay.

It s riveted on. I ve never had one off or put one on, so I don t know how hard that would be.

-Paul

- Ocelot

Oh wow… they’re in my backyard. Thanks for the suggestion.

I read that a piece of 5/32” mild steel will do the trick of attaching the lateral lever.

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#5 posted 10-12-2015 05:59 PM

If the plane’s just got a bit of surface rust, I like to wire brush it on the grinder then polish it with a cotton wheel and green compound, like Bill suggested. Bill’s right on with the past wax as well. I use it everywhere there isn’t japanning.

If the plane has heavier rust or rust that goes below the surface, I soak it overnight in a phosphoric acid to convert the rust. This is different than just removing the rust and will change the patina of the metal so be careful if you want to preserve the original appearance.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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sikrap

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#6 posted 10-13-2015 02:10 PM

My preferred method is to get some coarse ScotchBrite pads at the local autobody supply store and a small can of WD-40. The ScotchBrite pads will be pretty agressive and will clean the rust off there pretty quickly. You can probably get another lateral lever easily enough, but you’ll need to be careful attaching the new one.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#7 posted 10-13-2015 09:33 PM

Peening a new lateral on a cast iron frog is an adventure everyone should go on. Success or failure depends on a steady hand, some luck and a little bit of forethought.

If you smoke, you’ll be lighting up when your done. If you don’t smoke, a toast is usually in order so as to not to upset the peening gods.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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james3one

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#8 posted 10-13-2015 09:42 PM

Make sure you get actual machine oil on that puppy. Some household oil should do. The WD-40 is a penetrating oil and will evaporate. You can get some evaporust from the car parts store. Good stuff.

If you keep the original iron don’t grind unless it’s in bad shape. The work hardened edge will perform well for most tasks.

-- James, Tulsa OK,

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#9 posted 10-13-2015 10:00 PM



Peening a new lateral on a cast iron frog is an adventure everyone should go on. Success or failure depends on a steady hand, some luck and a little bit of forethought.

If you smoke, you ll be lighting up when your done. If you don t smoke, a toast is usually in order so as to not to upset the peening gods.

- Don W

Amen!

-- Mike

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8iowa

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#10 posted 10-14-2015 12:07 AM

I’ve “recovered” several old rusted Stanley’s by immersing the rusted parts in a tub of Evap-O-Rust. In about 24 hours or so the rust is gone. Then you can use sandpaper, going down to 220 if you wish a nice polish. I’ve had excellent results flattening the sole using my Shopsmith 6×48 beltsander.

Actually, the lateral adjustment lever is an un-necessary appendage. Taking a tip form Chris Schwarz; He holds the sole of the plane up to the light and “sights” on the “line” created by the blade, which is adjusted just proud of the sole. Then using a small hammer, tap the top of the blade left or right, in order to get the blade “line” absolutely parallel with the sole’s surface. The lateral adjustment lever is a too coarse adjustment.

I set up all my hand panes using this method.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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Tim

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#11 posted 10-14-2015 12:19 AM



Peening a new lateral on a cast iron frog is an adventure everyone should go on. Success or failure depends on a steady hand, some luck and a little bit of forethought.
- Don W

Yeah it was before my time on the epic thread, but was it Al that broke a valuable frog by trying to peen a new lateral lever on?

That’s not a bad point 8iowa. You can always adjust the lateral like a wooden plane.

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Don W

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#12 posted 10-14-2015 09:44 AM


Yeah it was before my time on the epic thread, but was it Al that broke a valuable frog by trying to peen a new lateral lever on?

- Tim

I remember it well. It was a #8 and he wasn’t even replacing it, just tightening it if I remember correctly. Oh the trauma.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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