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Now you know why Obama is considered the best firearms sales man for the last few years. All he has to do is open his mouth and folks go shopping. Proves just how good his gun control efforts truly are. He needs to keep making more speeches on the topic, cuz that's surely going to solve the problem. Sort of makes you proud you voted for him, don't it ?
 
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Nothing funny here! You people have a problem which is very easily solved, but unfortunately,only minority of Americans want it. Until than, there will be only dramatic news from you.

P.S. ...and those weapon supporters which say that Switzerland is also armed nation (which is a fact) are fools.
Sorry guys nothing personal, I'm just sorry for your kids which die in schools.
 
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I teach woodworking off campus for UCC Roseburg Oregon. You never think this kind of thing will happen in your area and when it does, you come to realize there are sick folks that pull these kind of tragedies many places . At this time I think it's more important to focus on supporting the victims and their families rather than on the political end of these problems.
 
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It is definitely a sad day when this happens. Rights come with responsibilities. For the past 40 years, the trend has been to make excuses for the irresponsible rather than hold them accountable as well as letting mental illness go untreated and forcing them out onto the streets to fend for themselves as best they can.
 
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How many people died and injured due to GM faulty switches? Anyone went to jail?
So, the president is about to ban gun ownership though executive order. All the law abiding citizens surrender their guns and become sitting ducks both against the government and criminals.
 
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How many people died and injured due to GM faulty switches? Anyone went to jail?
So, the president is about to ban gun ownership though executive order. All the law abiding citizens surrender their guns and become sitting ducks both against the government and criminals.

- mrjinx007
The tally is unde 200 people… What does that have to do with mass shooting and the fear gun nuts have of having their assault rifles taken away? Oh you're saying the gun companies are responsible for all the people killed with guns! Pretty bold approach, but I like it.

Do you really believe president Obama can ban gun ownership? He can't even force background checks that 90% of all US citizens want.
 
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Now you know why Obama is considered the best firearms sales man for the last few years. All he has to do is open his mouth and folks go shopping. Proves just how good his gun control efforts truly are. He needs to keep making more speeches on the topic, cuz that s surely going to solve the problem. Sort of makes you proud you voted for him, don t it ?

- BurlyBob
I did vote for him and I'm proud of him. Not many could put up with the crap he gets.

The rush on guns is because even the gun nuts think it will end soon. I mean even they think it is gone too far. But republicans are too well bought for that to change. So the rush is really just hysteria on the nuts side.
 
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How many people died and injured due to GM faulty switches? Anyone went to jail?
So, the president is about to ban gun ownership though executive order. All the law abiding citizens surrender their guns and become sitting ducks both against the government and criminals.

- mrjinx007
Every time I see something about his proposed executive order it says he will require back ground checks by the large retailers. That is federal law now. It should be being enforced without an executive order.

Nobody will ban ownership. About 85% of us, US, support it and know the criminals will run roughshod if they have no citizen deterrents. There are a few procrime factions who believe we should negotiate with home invaders or flee pour abodes and allow crime to continue with impunity, but they are a small minority. Police responding to the scene to take reports for insurance purposes and clear the area for the safety of first aid personnel has not worked and shows no sign the it will improve in the foreseeable future. I don't see much changing until the mental health services of pre-1980 are restored.
 
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Bob, I totally agree. There is no way to prevent this stuff happening even if the guns weren't there. Boston marathon criminals used a pressure cooker bomb and did far more damage. What are we to do next? Run a background check when you go to refill your BBQ's propane tank? If you are not in a rural area, buying 19 19 19 fertilizer makes you a suspect since Timothy McVeigh used it to blow up the federal building. Certain household cleaning items can be used to hurt people. Should we register people who buy bleach and something else at the same time?
The gun nuts are those who fear to have one and those who use it to harm innocent people.
 
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A gun nut is someone that gets his manhood from a gun, they use an assault rifle to kill a deer. How brave.

Why should any reasonable person need more than 1 rifle to defend themselves or their property? Answer; they don't.
 
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A gun nut is someone that gets his manhood from a gun, they use an assault rifle to kill a deer. How brave.

Why should any reasonable person need more than 1 rifle to defend themselves or their property? Answer; they don t.

- RobS888
No, they don't for that purpose. However, there are many uses for firearms. Same reason a golfer doesn't carry just one club.
 
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A gun nut is someone that gets his manhood from a gun, they use an assault rifle to kill a deer. How brave.

Why should any reasonable person need more than 1 rifle to defend themselves or their property? Answer; they don t.

- RobS888
Hmmm, Why do some guys need more than one plane, or, or ,or? They are just tools of a different type.
I suppose you would go out with a knife wrestle the deer to the ground then slit it's throat? Now that would be brave but not efficient.
And remember we've been throwing things at each other for thousands of years and it all started with rocks. Hey, ban guns (ban guns for all including the police and military), we'll start throwing rocks again everything will be even. Oh no it won't my rock is bigger than your rock. Well here we go again the arms race escalation!
 
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Beyond all the politics

.....Chicago had 390 fire arm deaths in 2014 with most gang related…..how do any laws or executive orders do anything to stop this?

.......60% of firearm related deaths are suicides

Before we start trying to make a bunch of new laws, we need to understand if these laws will make a difference.
 
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When the tool is for killing, perhaps different rules should apply than just, I want.

G7 Countries with gun laws generally have a small fraction of our murder rate. For good reason, if you are in many countries and want to kill someone you have to get close and very personal and (I think is a concern for gun nuts) you could lose without the gun.

I'm sorry, I see gun possession as a fear reaction based on the owner being unable to handle situations on their own. Zimmerman is an example of that, had to use a gun to get out of a situation his mouth got got him in that he couldn't handle on his own.

92% of the country want background checks, let's start there.
 
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Beyond all the politics

.....Chicago had 390 fire arm deaths in 2014 with most gang related…..how do any laws or executive orders do anything to stop this?

.......60% of firearm related deaths are suicides

Before we start trying to make a bunch of new laws, we need to understand if these laws will make a difference.

- Redoak49
It would cut down on the suicide rate at some point.

Why not try some new approaches and gauge the affect instead of talking more and letting thousands more die. Trying is better than nothing.
 
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I don't know how much any of you know, but in today's world, (at least in my state), home invasions comprised of 3 or 4 guys are becoming more and more popular.
Home owners are being beaten/robbed and sometimes killed.
So, how do I protect my family in the case of a home invasion if I can't own a gun?
Or should I just take it like a man while my wife and or children are being beaten and raped?
I prefer to keep my guns, thank you.
 
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I don t know how much any of you know, but in today s world, (at least in my state), home invasions comprised of 3 or 4 guys are becoming more and more popular.
Home owners are being beaten/robbed and sometimes killed.
So, how do I protect my family in the case of a home invasion if I can t own a gun?
Or should I just take it like a man while my wife and or children are being beaten and raped?
I prefer to keep my guns, thank you.

- woodust
How many guns can you use in that situation?
 
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Take away all the guns and then take away all the propane tanks and then take away all fertilizers and then take away all household cleaners, and then take away knives, and then take away any Sharpe object and then take away powder elements and then take away everything you can think of and the criminal mind will think about the next think the government will take away and come up with the next thing to take away. How did Ted Kerensky did his bedding? You fools!. Taking away is the agenda.
The problem I have with "mental illness" is that all it takes for your PCP to say, "you are depressed" because your husband crooked. Or you are in pain and you don't feel "happy". All it takes for your PCP to say you are suffering from some sort of "mental illness" to prevent you from going hunting next year. Do we want to go that route to have people like Rob telling you should we own a gun or be denied one?
This is my major concern about all candidates saying we need to target "mental illness". They will have no problem hacking away our rights one chip at a time for as long it takes because your PCP said you don't feel good today.
 
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