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10-07-2015 02:11 PM

The NRA should be extra proud of Ben Carson.

-- BOVILEXIA: The urge to moo at cows from a moving vehicle.


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#1 posted 10-07-2015 02:29 PM

What is NRA, who is Ben Carson??

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#2 posted 10-07-2015 04:35 PM

Any republican running for president has to give “oral pleasure” to the NRA.
By that I mean – say what the NRA want to hear.
Couldn’t actually believe a surgeon said that though.
Does his statement translate to – the right to buy guns outweighs the right to life.
The civilized world is stunned.

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#3 posted 10-07-2015 04:39 PM


Any republican running for president has to give “oral pleasure” to the NRA.

- murch


Really?
This is where liberals have to go?

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#4 posted 10-07-2015 05:00 PM

Not sure what he said but the tone of this submission makes my question the OPs intention.
+1 on nkatg’s comment.

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#5 posted 10-07-2015 05:45 PM

Maybe it should be aural pleasure.

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#6 posted 10-08-2015 02:10 AM

He said something along the line the victims should have charged the shooter since he could not have killed them all. That isn’t a quote, but close to it. What a total ass! And Trump is defending him ;-(

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 10-08-2015 03:29 AM

It is nice that we get to vote, but the NRA and that tax guy Grover Nutquist decide who we get to vote for.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#8 posted 10-08-2015 09:53 AM

People are so uninformed…....

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#9 posted 10-08-2015 12:37 PM



People are so uninformed…....

- upinflames

It is even worse, they are misinformed. I am just not saying who the “they” are here.

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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#10 posted 10-08-2015 05:20 PM

Make no mistake, Ben Carson is not my guy, but not for this reason…..I believe he said that HE would have charged the gunman…..I have to say, I would like to think I would do the same…..however…...NO ONE can say what they would do until they have stood in the other man’s shoes…..it is easy to sound off what you would or should do, but until you have been there it’s just noise.

But by saying that he has taken serious flack…isn’t that exactly what the guy that was shot 7 times did? Isn’t he a hero?

Carson has taken some serious shots here lately, which I guess is only part of rising in the polls. That professor/activist that called him the possible ** of the year was the worst. When people say things like that they need to realize that can cause a sympathy alligence for him, but anyone that would say that can not be anything but angry anyway.
Just my .02

Just my .02

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#11 posted 10-08-2015 05:39 PM

+1 Moke


He said something along the line the victims should have charged the shooter since he could not have killed them all. That isn t a quote, but close to it. What a total ass! And Trump is defending him ;-(

- TopamaxSurvivor


What he said is:

”I would not just stand there and let him shoot me,” – “I would say: ‘Hey, guys, everybody attack him! He may shoot me, but he can’t get us all.’”

the outrage is phony

So what is wrong with his approach?
Versus:
Stand up, state your religion and be shot in the head without argument is somehow a better approach?

As others say nobody really knows for sure what they would do locked in the classroom with a nutcase…. but we do seem to teach early on to never resist and never fight back…. so people stand and are slaughtered.

People should fight back – - like when they subdue the passenger charging the cockpit in March.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/accounts-airline-passenger-subdued-after-rushing-toward-cockpit-on-dulles-flight/2015/03/17/4ed16614-cc94-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html
Again this past July
http://mashable.com/2015/07/22/passenger-detained/#xpg6FxUFAZqr

People fighting back like United Flight 93 against teh hijackers

The brave people on the paris bound train when a nut comes in with an AK47 last month

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#12 posted 10-08-2015 06:02 PM

I suppose you could say the same about millions of murdered in WWII, eh? Easy to say anything when you weren’t there and have never been in a situation like that.

The is a woman who was having lunch with her parents in Luby's at Lileen, TX in 1991 who did not have her pistol with her that day. Her dad was the kind of guy to do something. He was shot and the SOB shot her mother as she cradled her dying husband.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#13 posted 10-08-2015 06:22 PM


I suppose you could say the same about millions of murdered in WWII, eh? Easy to say anything when you weren t there and have never been in a situation like that.

The is a woman who was having lunch with her parents in Luby s at Lileen, TX in 1991 who did not have her pistol with her that day. Her dad was the kind of guy to do something. He was shot and the SOB shot her mother as she cradled her dying husband.

- TopamaxSurvivor


Sure is – -

you are right and I stated that you don’t know what you would do.

If someone asked “WHAT WOULD YOU DO…. and held the microphone in front of you”....

Would you say you would fight back…. or say “I would stand and watch him shoot my friends and hope maybe his gun would jam before it was my turn”

WHat is the right answer?.... vs saying “i would fight back” is somehow the WRONG answer and they are (in your words “a total ass”)

The idea that fighting back doesnt guarantee your survival (like the Luby’s example) is still a better approach than to stand and just be executed.
Of course the story skipped the actuality for Ms Hupp.

Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen in 1991 when a mass shooting took place. The gunman shot 44 people in all, killing 24 of them, including himself. The fatally wounded included both of Hupp’s parents. Hupp later expressed regret about deciding to remove her gun from her purse and lock it in her car, lest she risk possibly running afoul of the state’s concealed weapons laws; during the shootings, she reached for her weapon but then remembered that it was “a hundred feet away in my car.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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#14 posted 10-08-2015 07:10 PM


I suppose you could say the same about millions of murdered in WWII, eh? Easy to say anything when you weren t there and have never been in a situation like that.

The is a woman who was having lunch with her parents in Luby s at Lileen, TX in 1991 who did not have her pistol with her that day. Her dad was the kind of guy to do something. He was shot and the SOB shot her mother as she cradled her dying husband.

- TopamaxSurvivor

Sure is – -

you are right and I stated that you don t know what you would do.

If someone asked “WHAT WOULD YOU DO…. and held the microphone in front of you”....

Would you say you would fight back…. or say “I would stand and watch him shoot my friends and hope maybe his gun would jam before it was my turn”

WHat is the right answer?.... vs saying “i would fight back” is somehow the WRONG answer and they are (in your words “a total ass”)

The idea that fighting back doesnt guarantee your survival (like the Luby s example) is still a better approach than to stand and just be executed.
Of course the story skipped the actuality for Ms Hupp.

Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby s Cafeteria in Killeen in 1991 when a mass shooting took place. The gunman shot 44 people in all, killing 24 of them, including himself. The fatally wounded included both of Hupp s parents. Hupp later expressed regret about deciding to remove her gun from her purse and lock it in her car, lest she risk possibly running afoul of the state s concealed weapons laws; during the shootings, she reached for her weapon but then remembered that it was “a hundred feet away in my car.

- DrDirt

The story was for reference of the event. I could not find the interview with the daughter.

Carson, Trump, et al should just pass without comment rather than criticize the victims. That may not be what they think they are doing but that is the way it comes across to the public at large. The media commentators do not help the situation trying to stir up sensationalism.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#15 posted 10-08-2015 07:26 PM

Carson, Trump, et al should just pass without comment rather than criticize the victims. That may not be what they think they are doing but that is the way it comes across to the public at large. The media commentators do not help the situation trying to stir up sensationalism.

- TopamaxSurvivor

Really – - – given that the current president is jumping on the PR trip to propose new laws, and heaven forbid – - – to follow the Australian model of confiscation. like in 1996…

The idea that during a campaign, the press would choose NOT to ask the republicans about the latest shooting?

On what freaking planet would that be?

I’m sure Barry will not politicize the event during his visit tomorrow to Oregon…. and you say NOTHING about Hillary commenting about taking gun control via executive order if elected.

Just the Republican candidates shoudl ‘pass’ on such questions…... MMMM right!!! Got it….. NO!

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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