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fineamerican

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1731 days ago

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Hi everyone Im curious to find out the best way to install these hinges in boxes. Ive tried with a drill press but have had varied results. In a book written by Doug Stowe he uses a router table. Im just curious to see what a majority thinks and if someone has a tip Im all ears!
Thanks!
John

-- John A. Thomas, South Carolina, www.thomaswoodworker.com


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MedicKen

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#1 posted 1731 days ago

Are you talking about the hinges that look like biscuits?

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fineamerican

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#2 posted 1731 days ago

yes those are the ones

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#3 posted 1731 days ago

Biscuit joiner or a 3/32” slot cutter in the router table.

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OhValleyWoodandWool

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#4 posted 1731 days ago

I’ve been curious about this as well process as well but I think that Ken’s ideas would cut a slot that is much too big. From what I’ve been able to determine the drill press is the way to go but you have to come up with a jig that aligns everything. I’ve heard about the router table idea but the blades that cut the slots really aren’t engineered for that level of torque. Even if the router is slowed way down I’m afraid that the blade would come apart with the results resemble shrapnel much too closely. I too would love to hear how other jocks have accomplished this.

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#5 posted 1731 days ago

i have some i used for small boxes ,
you need the slot saw that is made for them ,
it is t shaped ,
and mounts in the router .
i did mine in the router table ,
and carefully marked the edge of the fence ,
as the top and bottom are right and left to each other
as they come out .
once they are in ,
forget taking them out ,
do your finishing first , unless its oil

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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fineamerican

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#6 posted 1731 days ago

I agree, I think the biscuit kerfs would be too big.
Patron thanks for your advice

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Kindlingmaker

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#7 posted 1731 days ago

There are some very interesting Dremel blades available…

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MedicKen

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#8 posted 1729 days ago

I was thinking of a different type of hinge. I agree the standard cutter on a biscuit joiner would be too large. i found this at Woodcraft.

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#9 posted 1729 days ago

Yes that saw blade and arbor is pretty much the only way to go.

Its a little pricey, especially to get both blades. But I found it to be a really good investment because I also use the blade to cut micro-keys in mitered boxes and frames like this one:

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I just put the mini saw in my router table (you MUST have a variable-speed router) and set my miter gauge to 45 deg with a stop block, and run the corners of my box/frame through the blade.

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WayneC

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#10 posted 1729 days ago

Do you run it at lowest speed? Looks like it was designed for a drill press.

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#11 posted 1729 days ago

i just looked at mine ,
it is a one piece that is flush across the top,
no nut or allen screw .
i can’t see any company name on it ,

but im still trying to find it on-line .
it was way cheaper than the one at woodcraft ,
and i know i just used the router table for mine .
i’ll keep looking .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Blake

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#12 posted 1729 days ago

Yes, lowest speed possible on your router and slow feed rate.

And to answer the original question (I may have read it wrong the first time) I cut the hinge slots on my router table with a simple “sled” that allows the box to “feed” straight into the blade. I also clamp stops in place to get consistent results and not cut too deep. The sled is just a thin rectangle of hardboard with a runner that fits in my router table’s miter slot.

Plunge a little at a time into the blade (in and out) until you hit your stop block. This will keep the blade from bogging down or overheating.

I tried setting up a jig for the drill press (they even include plans for it with the blade) but I hated it. It didn’t seem accurate enough for such fine hinges.

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reggiek

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#13 posted 1729 days ago

I was wondering if perhaps you could use one of the dial a slot cutter bits for a router? I haven’t looked at the specs…but it seems that you could adjust the size to fit (I have one with micro shims that I use to cut splines in very small boxes….I use it to make a slotted mortise and tenon joint for turned spindles and for cutting decorative slots in turned items…)...I also like the idea of using the dremel…I don’t think I could ever give up my dremel…it is just to useful…

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Blake

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#14 posted 1729 days ago

Yes. I use it in my router (read my post above). But it MUST be variable speed.

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#15 posted 1729 days ago


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i’m still looking !

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