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12-02-2009 02:57 AM

Looking for advice as to what is good/what I need.

If at all possible Rockler or Woodcraft ‘cuz this stuff is going on my Christmas list and it be easier for people if they can pick it up locally but doesn’t have to be if they don’t sell decent ones.

What thread is the spindle 1”x8? That’s what the Jet is and it looks like these came out of the same factory. The manual, which is severely lacking, doesn’t say and I have yet to take the plate off to see.

4 Jaw Chucks, whose are the good ones and where to get them?

I have the 6 piece Sorby set that Rockler had on sale, which included these:

3/4” roughing gouge
3/8” bowl gouge
3/8” spindle gouge
1/2” round-nose scraper
3/4” skew with oval shank
1/8” parting tool

What other ones would be good to have?

Have calipers on the list but what other items might be good to have?

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI


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#1 posted 12-02-2009 03:04 AM

Tools look good to me

Introduction to turning class at woodcraft or rockler
Pen turning supplies mandral, blanks, kits, bushings
Sandpaper strips
Finishing supplies

Wolverine sharpening jig and grinder with correct wheels
Resparator
Face Shield
Raffin turning videos

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#2 posted 12-02-2009 03:14 AM

I highly recommend the barracuda 2 chuck system for your lathe. http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CSC3000C.html?mybuyscid=5955868742 Has several jaws and accesories and can add mor pieces as needed.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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#3 posted 12-02-2009 03:18 AM

Blank,

Congrats on getting the lathe! Now you are REALLY in trouble.

As far as chucks, I would stick with Oneway or Nova. Both are great.

Your thread is most likely 1×8. That’s what my Jet mini is. You’ll need a couple of spurs and live centers.

If you are going to do smaller stuff, like pens, you might want to get some smaller chisels too. You absolutely have to check out the tools at easywoodtools.com. They really work great. Some purists scoff at them, but I’ll tell you they really work!

You will slowly build up your turning supplies. A good face protector is a must, one that filters is really good, and you will need a turning smock. Those lathes and sharp tools send the wood flying all over, and most of it seems to end up down your shirt.

Also, absolutely for sure, you will need a sharpening system. Many turners use the Wolverine system with the varigrind jigs. I use it and love it. I had the Tormek Ultimate for a while, but it was slow and didn’t put a sturdy edge on the tools. But that’s just my experience. But remember, a sharp tool is a good tool: you will get super frustrated if your tools dull. If you only have one bowl gouge for instance, you will sharpen it a couple of times turning one bowl.

You will also build up more than one of each gouge. You will want a detail gouge; turn one of your bowl gouges into a fingernail gouge; inside scraper, outside scraper; 1/2” bowl gouges; 1/2” skew, 1/4” skew; diamond parting tool: just to mention a few

You will want to get some Kingsplor sanding rolls, the green stuff, 180 grit, 220, 260, 320, 400, 600.

You will need polish, shellac, beeswax, pencils, squaring meter, sanding filler, dust control, and on and on.

You might want to checkout/join the American Association of Woodturners. Lots of good advice about tools and shop stuff there too.

Also, Trifern on this site is a master turner! Hope he chimes in too!

Welcome to the addiction. :)

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#4 posted 12-02-2009 03:32 AM

Thanks so far, I’m reading emails as they come in and adding stuff to my list. Our family shopping list is online my nephew does so I’m filling it out real time.

I knew face shield but it slipped my mind so that will go on there, and smock I didn’t even think of so thanks! And duplicate tools, good idea and the Wolverine stuff, what grit grinding wheel is good?

Dan that chuck looks good but a little high priced so I may have to get it for myself but what do you guys think of this one:

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005199/4174/TEKNATOOL-SuperNova2.aspx

And would I need one of those Inserts they show?

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#5 posted 12-02-2009 03:41 AM

I love my supernova chuck. And not to cause an argument, I did not have very good luck with my PSI chuck at all. I also have a Oneway that works great. Others swear by the PSI.

The sharpening system really is a priority, as is the face mask/respirator. I ended up getting a Trend Airshield Pro. Yes, very pricey, but it REALLY is fantastic and keeps the dust out of your eyes, ears, and most importantly, lungs.

I use the blue 80 grit aluminum oxide wheel and the pink 120 grit aluminum oxide wheel. I also got the variable speed grinder at Woodcraft on sale for 90.00. You will want to grind at the low speed most of the time.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#6 posted 12-02-2009 03:44 AM

i hope you have deep pockets…cuz you sure have opened the dam of tools that can go with this lathe ,,,lol..i hope your family and or friends fill the list you have…i would hate to think you dont have all you ’’need’’ to do all that can be done…...just wait …a year maybe will go by…...and it will be posted..’’ I just got a new full size powermatic lathe so i could do more then what the samll one did’’...its a sickness…...lol…..once you start…it doesnt end…good luck with it all…i cant wait to see what you make…..

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#7 posted 12-02-2009 03:59 AM

LOL Yeah I know Grizz, but when I go I go full throttle.

No no no this will be my one and only lathe….

Oh. Did I put that in writing….

But I really am out of room that’s why this one will be good so I hope that doesn’t ever happen. Ever ever ever…

But the neighbors will be askin’ ‘Why’s all that stuff from your basement layin’ in the backyard now?...’

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#8 posted 12-02-2009 04:06 AM

Ah geeze Chip, another grinder? I have 5 now. 6 if you counter the one I put the wire wheels on. 7 if you count the buffer… I’m gonna hafta stack ‘em.

Does that variable speed grinder have good power? The reason I ask the 2 1HP Jet’s I have do, the wire wheel one I can sto, that’s why it’s no longer a grinder.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#9 posted 12-02-2009 04:13 AM

Use your jet, use a router speed control, and just turn it down to about 1800 rpm. Sounds like you have enough!

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#10 posted 12-02-2009 04:18 AM

Don’t know if I can do that, pretty sure it’s an induction motor and not a univeral motor.

Do I need something to attach tht Nova chuck from WoodCraft? I didn’t see any thread choices.

And where do you get 120 grit wheels?

That slow speed 1/2HP grinder at WoodCraft for $110 looks decent, same speed as the lowest speed the variable ones go.

And a slow speed grinder has been on the radar so another one is ok.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#11 posted 12-02-2009 04:33 AM

LOL, ok, as long as it has been on the radar! :)

The chuck will thread right on to the spindle, and you just have to get the correct tpi.

I got the 120 grit wheels at Woodcraft. A lot of online stores have them.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#12 posted 12-02-2009 04:38 AM

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#13 posted 12-02-2009 05:03 AM

Thanks for the links Wayne! That chuck & Wolverine Jig are on the list. But I only find 80 grit wheels and not 120 or 150 grit at WoodCraft.

I found a 150 grit at Rockler, I assme it would be ok?

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10088

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#14 posted 12-02-2009 05:04 AM

Chip, yeah, I figured out I need that 1”x8TPI insert for the Nova Chuck.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#15 posted 12-02-2009 05:26 AM

Pink 120 grit is on this page
http://www.woodcraft.com/Family/2000216/Aluminum-Oxide-Grinding-Wheels.aspx

Blue 80 grit on this page
http://www.woodcraft.com/Family/2001852/Blue-Aluminum-Oxide-Grinding-Wheels.aspx

Recommend 8” grinder.

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