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10-04-2015 02:14 AM

Every so often I look again for a table saw. I bought a $50 grizzly TS10 and while it’s better than what I had prior, it still has issues that I might not even be able to fix.

So can anyone advise me on this one: https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/5251181590.html

Thanks


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#1 posted 10-04-2015 04:05 AM

If there’s any chance you can save up for a used cabinet saw or a hybrid with table-mounted trunnions, that would be my recommendation. Just seeing a picture of the contractor saw’s motor hanging out the back brings back bad memories of trying to cut 45° bevels on my old Jet. Virtually all contractor saws have the same geometric weakness with the table-mounted trunnions and their ease of going out of adjustment.

I’ve been pretty happy with the Unifence (newer version) that’s on my well-used Unisaw. It’s very accurate, just sometimes a little difficult to unlock and glide. Definitely better than the original tube fence in the pictures. It looks like the owner put some time into a good outfeed and right-wing set-up. If that’s a Delta miter bar in the back of Picture #10 and he has the hold-down bar that attaches and runs above the miter bar itself, they used to run $100 on eBay, haven’t looked for a few years though. Major Caveat: Make sure the motor starts up quickly and goes to full speed without hesitation. A bad motor will cost you more than what he’s asking for the saw.

-- My mother said that anyone learning to cook needed a large dog to eat the mistakes. As a sculptor of wood I have always tried to keep a fireplace. (Norman Ridenour)

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#2 posted 10-04-2015 04:17 AM

Abehil, I just looked at your thread on the Grizz (the one about getting the blade parallel with the miter slot). Two thoughts (1) Take measuring/set-up tools with you to check the Craigs List saw at both 90° and when tilted. (2) The whole situation with your Grizzly saw could be due to the bugaboo where the rectangle formed by the 4 parts of the trunnion assembly becomes a parallelogram instead of a rectangle. It is a very common, and very frustrating problem with contractor saws. I can find an online article on fixing it, will get it to you tonight or tomorrow. That is what was wrong with my Jet saw when I bought it, and I ended up having a travelling tool repair guy take it and fix it for me—he does work for the major lumberyards in the area. I was just too frustrated to deal with it. But it is fixable by a mortal, LOL.

-- My mother said that anyone learning to cook needed a large dog to eat the mistakes. As a sculptor of wood I have always tried to keep a fireplace. (Norman Ridenour)

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abehil

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#3 posted 10-04-2015 05:15 AM

We should probably go back to that other post to continue about the grizzly. Actually, I wanted to make it work for me for awhile. But the previous owner dropped it (not very far) and it broke the bracket holding the tilt wheel and it’s shaft. I managed to find a replacement, got it in and now it seems the shaft itself is bent somewhat and that is making the handle turn really stiff.

Also, I managed to get the blade parallel by filing the trunion bolt holes wider so I could move it over far enough (and I have installed PALS on it). Then, thinking I was done with that I tightened up the bolts connecting the trunion to the top but now it seems that the another problem has arrived. The handle for raising/lowering the blade is now turning real stiff and oddly if the blade is all the way down, it actually touches the front of the saw which can’t be good.

I’m using it carefully for the time being and by paying attention to it’s issues I think safely as well. I truly would like to get it in better working order while not spending a bunch – after all it’s from pre-g1022 era.
And FWIW, I removed the horrible fence and built one with wood that while only temporary, is far better.


Abehil, I just looked at your thread on the Grizz (the one about getting the blade parallel with the miter slot). Two thoughts (1) Take measuring/set-up tools with you to check the Craigs List saw at both 90° and when tilted. (2) The whole situation with your Grizzly saw could be due to the bugaboo where the rectangle formed by the 4 parts of the trunnion assembly becomes a parallelogram instead of a rectangle. It is a very common, and very frustrating problem with contractor saws. I can find an online article on fixing it, will get it to you tonight or tomorrow. That is what was wrong with my Jet saw when I bought it, and I ended up having a travelling tool repair guy take it and fix it for me—he does work for the major lumberyards in the area. I was just too frustrated to deal with it. But it is fixable by a mortal, LOL.

- ForestGrl


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#4 posted 10-04-2015 05:48 AM

Abe I think you should keep looking around for a while. There’s got to be better offerings out there. I looked long and hard before I got my delta unisaw. Be patient and expand your search area.

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#5 posted 10-04-2015 08:00 AM

I have that same saw “Delta”, Forestgrls experience is the same as mine. I bought a cabinet saw 12-14” . I found a dramatic difference in the machines, with the cabinet saw much better in every way.
I kept the contractors saw, and use it for a 2nd saw, with a little care it can do a good enough job.
I am in the same region, there is not much on the CL right now, but good deals do show up. The best bang for a buck that I see often is the earlier Grizzly 1020-cabinet saws. Usually around 250 to 350. They are a little rough around the edges, but are pretty good saws….keep looking.

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#6 posted 10-04-2015 11:35 AM

I avoid anything with the Delta name on it as parts for them are very hard to come by.

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#7 posted 10-04-2015 12:30 PM

I don’t care for jobs item saws. But I’ve been where you are.
Many would pay that much for the fence alone.

Try to get it for 200…because. buy me a cigar out the 100 you save.

CL has proven to me the following:
that the longer you wait + the max distance you are willing to drive = a effing killer deal.

300 will go a long way. Especially if you are able and willing to rebuild an old saw.also be prepared and not surprised if you find a deal from someone who doesn’t know what they have. I just made a deal on a shaper the guy advertised as a jointer. Search under misspelled words: tablesaw ban saw radical arm saw.

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#8 posted 10-04-2015 02:02 PM

Freaking phones autocorrect.
” I don’t care for job sire saws….”

-- Don't blame me, I voted for no one.

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#9 posted 10-04-2015 05:42 PM

Geez, I was sleepy when wrting the first post, now cannot edit. It’s table-mounted trunnions that cause the problems.

-- My mother said that anyone learning to cook needed a large dog to eat the mistakes. As a sculptor of wood I have always tried to keep a fireplace. (Norman Ridenour)

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#10 posted 10-04-2015 05:51 PM

Maybe for 125$

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#11 posted 10-04-2015 06:00 PM

Well, a cabinet saw for $350 would be awesome, however I’d have to say I have not seen any cabinet saws on CL for a price like that. Is that really possible?

I’ve convinced myself I really want a saw with a riving knife. But I don’t see any selling for anything like $350.

I bought my Grizzly for $50 (plus gas for 120 miles and trailer rental) and while that was a good price I have something that is only semi usable and I’m not certain I can completely rehabilitate. When I do find a better saw I will probably strip down the Grizzly TS-10 I have. I have already taken it’s miter gauge to make a band saw fence that works splendidly. The motor is destined for a diy drum sander. The mobile base is reusable. Try to sell it’s grizzly parts (wings, handles, knobs?) that might be needed by someone else. Sell the rest by the pound.

I do have something that I can limp along with for a little while. I would feel empowered to wait if I thought an actual cabinet saw of just about any condition would eventually materialize at that price.

I have that same saw “Delta”, Forestgrls experience is the same as mine. I bought a cabinet saw 12-14” . I found a dramatic difference in the machines, with the cabinet saw much better in every way. I kept the contractors saw, and use it for a 2nd saw, with a little care it can do a good enough job. I am in the same region, there is not much on the CL right now, but good deals do show up. The best bang for a buck that I see often is the earlier Grizzly 1020-cabinet saws. Usually around 250 to 350. They are a little rough around the edges, but are pretty good saws….keep looking.

- unbob

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#12 posted 10-04-2015 08:40 PM

Abehil, I’m am going to start a new thread with the specific info about fixing trunnions when they get like the ones on your Grizzly. I feel this is important info for all contractor saw owners to have. In the years that I’ve participated on various forums, a healthy number of owners have worsened their problems by drilling out mounts and other drastic actions. Too bad the tool companies don’t make this info available, as it can be hard to find even when I know what to look for!

Edit: OK, here it is.

-- My mother said that anyone learning to cook needed a large dog to eat the mistakes. As a sculptor of wood I have always tried to keep a fireplace. (Norman Ridenour)

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