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BlankMan

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11-29-2009 06:49 PM

Anybody using one of these? Rockler’s got it for $199 in the Stores with a $100 Gift Card and on the web for $199 with the extension bed. So I’m thinking of picking one up at the store (better deal as the extension bed is $79 at the stores).

So I’m wondering what people that have one think of it?

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI


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eddy

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#1 posted 11-29-2009 07:05 PM

my daughter (posts here as ProfistofDoom) has had her’s for more than a year now. it gets used every week
runs very smoth i would buy again

-- self proclaimed copycat

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#2 posted 11-29-2009 07:45 PM

I believe the ad reads: buy lathe $199.00 get extended bed for .99 cents.

-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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Padre

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#3 posted 11-29-2009 07:45 PM

Thanks for asking this Blankman! I got an email this morning from them about it and was wondering the same thing. Sometimes my Powermatic 3520b is just too big for some stuff. Free shipping too, except the $35 overweight fee.

Here’s the text from the email I got:
Excelsior 5-Speed Mini Lathe w/Bed Extension!
We’re spinning huge savings your way with this week’s Web Buster! When you purchase an Excelsior 5-Speed Mini Lathe (normally $249.99), you get a Bed Extension (normally $79.99) for only $.99 – that’s a savings of $129! Plus we’re offering FREE shipping this week, so you can get your other items for less too!
Sale $199.99! (Total value $329.98!)
Note: While basic shipping for this item is FREE, the $35 charge for overweight shipping still applies.

Does anyone know if you could make this a variable speed lathe by putting the belt on the highest setting and then putting something like a router speed control or something like that on it? It’s only 1/2 horse.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#4 posted 11-29-2009 07:48 PM

i don’t have one but i’m gonna get one as soon as i put the money together it will be my first lathe but i think this is all i need unless i can find a delta one for cheaper or the same price same size as this one. thats my take on it i would say go for it if u got the money.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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BlankMan

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#5 posted 11-29-2009 08:09 PM

Yeah you guys are right I misread that, $0.99 for the extension bed, pretty much the same though, $200 for the lathe and bed.. Still a better deal at the store though. Buy it for $199 get the $100 gift card, buy the bed for $79 have $20 left for other goodies. (Minus taxes.)

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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Padre

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#6 posted 11-29-2009 08:14 PM

You are absolutely right Blankman. If I had a store near me, I wouldn’t hesitate. :)

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#7 posted 11-29-2009 08:25 PM

Chip, I would think you could do that with a variable speed control, as long as it’s rating can handle the current. Worth a try in my mind.

The only difference that comes to mind is routers are universal motors and this has an induction motor. If the speed controller works by only turning on part of the each half ot the AC sine like most of them do it should work. (Used to work in engineering at Allen-Bradley Drives Division so I understand this stuff.) The only thing I’d check out is if it’s ok to use its motor with the partial since wave controller (probably the same for any induction motor) and speed regulation under heavy load (maybe not noticable though) and torque might be an issue. But I’d be willing to give’r a try.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#8 posted 11-29-2009 08:25 PM

I’ve been thinking about a lathe for a while. After getting the Rockler email this morning, and reading some comments on the internet, I just pulled the trigger. Stay tuned.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#9 posted 11-29-2009 08:26 PM

ike i would get the Excelsior over the delta i was asking my daughter about this post and she said this lathe is
better that the delta at her schools woodshop and is about the same as the jet at school

-- self proclaimed copycat

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Padre

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#10 posted 11-29-2009 08:27 PM

You are absolutely right Blankman. If I had a store near me, I wouldn’t hesitate. :)

oops, don’t know how this posted twice. Mea culpa.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#11 posted 11-29-2009 08:30 PM

Blankman,
Just read up on the router speed controller, and once again, you are absolutely correct! :) Sheesh, don’t get a big head now!

Since my ‘accident’ I have been doing turning almost exclusively. My legs can’t handle the walking/holding/lifting/bending/stretching that other woodworking requires. I have also been interested in doing some pens and smaller stuff.

Besides, can one have too many tools? :) LOL.

I also have an old, unused $150.00 gift certificate from Rockler. It’s time. Yup, yup, yup.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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#12 posted 11-29-2009 08:39 PM

Hello Blankman , I was told years ago that you could use a speed control on any motor that has brushes in it .
Use on other types of motors would cause damage or not work at all. Does that make sense to you ? Thank you : )

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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#13 posted 11-29-2009 08:46 PM

Dusty, yeah that’s why I mentioned to check it out, an AC motor with brushes is a universal motor, so called because most can run on DC too. But the fan in my hood over the stove is an induction motor and it has that type of speed controller I referred to and all ceiling fans are induction motors and their speed controllers are of this type also. That’s why I’m thinking it might be possible. Granted these motors are not of that high of horsepower so that was why I was hedging.

If I get some time I’ll dig thought my college books, I also majored in this in college, and do some research to see what I can find out. I like Chip’s idea and if possible would probably do it myself. Beats changing belts or gears all the time.

These controllers when they turn on at say 90 egress into the sine wave go from zero current to rated current almost instantaneously, that can produce a lot of RF interference too.

The more I think about this the more I’m leaning not, and is why speed control of AC motors is done by changing the frequency. It’s the 60Hz that controls the speed by the rotation of the magnetic field, that’s why it’s done by changing the frequency. And the reason it works for universal motors is because they act like DC motors in this instance, the inductance of the armature averaging the chopped sine wave into a lower voltage ergo lower speed and the counter EMF limitling current and providing decent speed regulation.

Been a while, not in that field for 20 some years, had to think, but it’s coming back to me. So I’d have to say it probably won’t work or not be good for the motor.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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WoodSparky

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#14 posted 11-29-2009 11:05 PM

I have been looking for a good used mini-lathe for my children to use, does such an animal exist? I prefer to buy new, then to get some elses problem child. Right now my son is just tall enough to work on my full size lathe, but my daughter has to look up, not down at her work. The thrill and joy of her first turned pen could not be contained. She showed it to everyone she could. Now Daddy, you need to get a little lathe, so you bring it to school and show everyone. Oh Boy. I am out fitted with #2 MT and 1 1/4 chucks. I will need to retool if I head down this path.

-- So Many tools, So little time

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#15 posted 11-29-2009 11:27 PM

WoodSparky, I have the Jet VS and woud it would be a good candidate for a kid. I belive it is a MT #2…... The stand does have a little bit of adjustability but not enough for a child. You could get a table or bench that is at the right height.

Pen on lathe 2

I see them for sale every once in a while on Craigslist.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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